*What is the special quality possessed by indigenous peoples from all over the planet that it seems needs to be suppressed or destroyed?*

Well reality does not go away, when we close our eyes and wish it
would. Fact is that that the world is full of one nation expanding
and indigenous people losing out. Thats the reality of history.

I see it a different way. If Indonesia or China had decided to
set sail and claim Australia, (there were relatively few locals here
to resist them), the indigenous people would most likely now be
far worse off then they are now.

So count yourself lucky that it was Britain :)
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I think all you supporters of an aboriginal state are 'stuck in the dream time'

Two crucial issues need to be addressed for this to be a success.
1. 90 to 95% of their working age population need to work so that taxes can be raised to fund the financial requirements of such a state. After all, this is how our existing states work today.

2. They have to be able to control the issues that are the cause of most of their current day problems (alcohol)

So unless you can see this happening then you are simply 'dreaming'

As yabby says, thank your lucky stars that the British colonised this country.

Yes Arjay and Yabby, you are both right, in fact, genocide or obliteration from the planet would have been kinder and more humane than the slow 200 years of indignities suffered (so far) in silence. That does not and cannot excuse the behaviour of any nation who believes that 'might is right'. Hopefully, we are evolving towards a future that is not as dim and miserable as it is presently painted?

To rehctub
1. Have you noticed the mental breakdowns, family disintegrations and the general despair becoming rife in communities caused largely by
"overwork"; "overtaxation"; and the "overburdening" of individuals, particularly men, in today's society? Can we survive 60,000 yrs. of hard labour?
2. When Aboriginal people regain their dignity and manage and mind their "own business" alcohol will cease to be a problem But, we had better hurry up...just as in European society, young people are rebelling against manipulation and materialism.

I asked a few simple questions at the beginning of this thread.

I would prefer those questions were answered before I contribute in some areas to this debate.

However, since we have a few more posted comments on which to express some opinion or reflection

“I am told that Dr.Hugh Schonfield had a vision of a Servant Nation”

John Newton (1725-1803) had a similar vision and made a lot of money out of it.

Except he did not call them ‘servants’

Arjay “Most of the Aboriginal race have more Anglo genes than Aboriginal”

I feel this is likely, as a consequence of simple human lust.

It erodes and makes stupid the concept of a ‘nation for aborigines’, if the aborigines share a common genetic parentage with the rest of Australia.

Yabby “So count yourself lucky that it was Britain :)”

A sentiment I have expressed myself in previous threads addressing aspects on matters associated with this one.

However, the biggest problem I have with the entire concept is this

Dr Martin Luther King dedicated his life and died promoting the values, virtues and ideals of

Human Integration

Even lacking the essentials which I asked for initially, I feel this proposal would work in a direction 180degrees about from that ideal.

Promoting segregation of peoples based on race.

We all know what to call a ‘white man’ (in the southern states of USA) who would suggest such a thing.
I remain at a loss to what we call an aboriginal when they ask for same.

I am still reeling at the proposals for a 'servant nation' and the segregation that such a 'nation' would require.

Does no-one else find these ideas completely reprehensible?

Well that's one way Australia could take up where apartheid South Africa left off....

*When Aboriginal people regain their dignity and manage and mind their "own business" alcohol will cease to be a problem*

Gerbran, dignity is an individual mindset that we each have to
deal with, it is not about race. All that society can do is
give everyone an opportunity. Wether people take it or not, is
up to them.

Some will blame everyone but themselves for their failures, others
will thrive and succeed in their lives. Take a look around you.
There are people of every race and gender, some thriving, some
failing. Yes, its a common human foible to blame the rest of the
world for our problems, but at some point we each have to deal
with it as individuals and realise that we can bring about change
if we wish. When we do, even if it means picking ourselves up by
our bootstraps and making that change happen, you would be
amazed at how proud we are of ourselves. Our dignity is returned.