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Creation of a new State for the Aboriginal people of Australia
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Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 18 August 2008 2:05:20 PM
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Oh dear!
Oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear! "It seems what we have here is a failure to communicate." GERBRAN, who signs off within her posts as June, first raises the concept of what she calls a "Servant Nation" in the seventh post to this thread. She promotes the Australian aboriginal race as her ideal candidate for this identity. I would infer from her posts that she envisions such status as constituting some sort of exemplar, with Australian aboriginal people being in a position of privilege, not subservience, with respect to the rest of the world. CJMorgan, Col Rouge, and Fractelle seem to have taken this 'Servant Nation' concept or proposal as a sanitized euphemism for the enslavement or subordination of the Aboriginal people of Australia in some new incarnation of apartheidt. Understandably, and predictably, they have all spewed at the prospect of its implementation. I think they have totally mistaken GERBRAN's, or June's, meaning. Lord Seajaye, Col, Fractelle: Make Google your friend! Foxy, stand back, and be thankful that sometimes an auctioneer wont take a bid no matter how much you wave your hand about. GERBRAN (or June) says, in post #7, .... "I am told that Dr.Hugh Schonfield had a vision of a Servant Nation joining together to serve the nations, forming a brotherhood of man in miniature ......" Googling 'Dr Hugh Schonfield' yields this link as the first offerred up by the search: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_J._Schonfield . Click on it. GERBRAN has told us in post #21 "My browser, or whatever you call it is packing up so before I disappear, hopefully not forever! ......" It's all in a turn of phrase. "I am told", instead of a link. "...before I disappear": She knows she is going to disappear! What a shame! She has only arrived on OLO within the last few days. If only she had asked, someone from among us could have warned her of the unsettling effect capitalised userIDs could have with respect to establishing credibility. Let the games and recriminations begin! Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Monday, 18 August 2008 6:26:21 PM
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Crikey Mr. Gumpp, I had no intention of disappearing, it was my inability to manage the finer points of my computer that sent the green light flickering to OFF.
Thank goodness someone has bothered to look up Dr. Schonfield. In 1989 I found out? about a 'thing' called the Mondcivitan Republic and found it interesting enough to write to them in London. I received a very informative letter from the Secretary-General 1972-1982 stating that Dr. Schonfield died Jan. 1988. At a meeting with his three daughters it was agreed that the work of the moncivitan Republic has ceased and as no-one had come forward to continue the work on the basis of the principles laid down in the Provicional Constitution of 1956 that "Hugh" regarded as an essential format, the bulk of the Republic's Archives will be housed at 27 Delancy St. for the present but may be removed to France or even Boston later on... The letter from the Secretary General finished with.. "While Hugh Schonfield and the Mondcivitan Republic are sadly no more, his vision remains. An adherent and close associate for many years once wrote to him " I am deeply convinced- and this conviction grows as time goes by - that your vicion of A Servant Nation joining together to save the nations, forming a brotherhood of man in miniature and serving mankind, is as valid as it ever was." The letter finished with " That vision will not die and, at the right time, Hugh's dream will surely come to fruition. Yours in service....." Where else should we look to fulfill the dream of a Servant Nation than our own, not as yet defunct, Aboriginal nation. Known for their practise of the cosmic law of the universe for umpteen thousand years, known for their practise of sharing, this latter not being a strong point in other ancient tribal nations, I would say without question our long suffering Aboriginal Nation fills the bill. Never fear, Mr. Gumpp, I'll be back while that green light still flickers on. Posted by GERBRAN, Monday, 18 August 2008 7:27:44 PM
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Forrest - of course I had a look, but I was less than enthused.
Just another cultist frootloop with some superficially attractive ideas, if you ask me. The "servant nation" thing is just another utopian fantasy, but nominating the Aboriginal "race" as suitable candidates adds a decidedly unsavoury dimension to the delusion. Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 18 August 2008 8:31:14 PM
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OK, I confess, I did not go back and reread Foxy's and Col's posts. I took them at their word.
The first time I scrolled through, I thought that Foxy was giving the idea serious consideration and Col, well, due to pompous style and self-reference I have a tendency to skim his posts (eg "I would like to see a few unambiguous answers to a few simple questions before I comment." and the questions that would meet your standards Sire?) - if anything leaps out at me, then I will read thoroughly. Quite frankly I don't have the time: Whereas, Gumpp clearly has given his propensity for colourful bon mots. Without really contributing much BTW. CJ, you are without sin: "I thought GERBRAN's original post was pretty silly, but the last one's plain ridiculous. "Servant Nation" indeed." I claim the high moral ground on spelling out very clearly that the 'king has no clothes.' Well that's my piece of smug for the day. Still wondering if GERBRAN isn't just being hugely ironic, hopefully she is. Posted by Fractelle, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 8:17:39 AM
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I am being HUGELY serious Fractelle...once again here is my website
http://www.geocities.com/ryanjune54/ and here's my other one to try http://www.geocities.comjune.ryan76/ Posted by GERBRAN, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 9:31:57 AM
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Foxy, I can't see that you've commented at all on the appalling "servant nation" proposal in this thread.