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A Royal Commission into farmers' practices...when please?
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Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 23 August 2008 8:02:48 PM
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Nicky
Thanks but they don’t have that here. They only have work providers who are ‘supposed‘to find employment for people unemployed. In real life these agencies are paid more by not finding employment but that’s off track and another story. People go to Gold Coast Volunteers and pick a NFP. From their Gold Coast volunteers call the NFP and arrange an interview. The person comes and you commence training- usually a couple of hours. They then fill out your companies details and sent it to centre link to show they have honored their agreement. *Then they are never seen or heard of again* Naturally you do the normal thing and contact the people who sent them to you in the first place. They say well that’s nothing to do with us. You say well who is their job net work provider? They say we can’t supply you with that because it’s a violation of their privacy. By this time you have wasted three to four hours and you are spitting chips (especially if you have half a dozen of them) There is nothing more frustrating! Of course they ALL tell you they really love animals just to make it worse. Gold Coast Volunteers once to us that a web master had been turning up every day for six months. When we informed them that was a lie they said they were duty bound to accept him at his word!! Very funny. No Nicky we don’t get involved. Anyway its has to be said on the site that’s important and I have to do that in the first place then send it to our helper. To be continue Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 24 August 2008 4:59:00 AM
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The Salvation Army, doing something to help animals *naturally has its appeal but let’s not hold our breath.
. # And people do not have a choice about W4D. # Actually it works like this. If they don’t turn up they are sent a letter and asked to explain why. All they have to day is get a Dr Certificate and they walk. Anyway who wants to chase people around who really don’t care? It’s useless. #Google Earth; that might be closer to what you're looking for# That’s what I was referring to. . #How you would monitor what happens in the locations you find might be a problem though. # I don’t know yet. Other than not giving it to DPI RSPCA or Federal Gov. Not RSPCA and either. Perhaps AA could ask RSPCA national to acknowledge AA and PACAT as an accepted Animal welfare org and we could get some funding for staff for them through MLA. After all they have plenty of our money. However they would also need the independent advice of trained stock men- perhaps aboriginal before lodging a complaint. Maybe we could fund a helicopter and vet to do with the stockmen.. Let’s think about it. Tar Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 24 August 2008 5:00:52 AM
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The Salvation Army, doing something to help animals *naturally has its appeal but let’s not hold our breath.
. # And people do not have a choice about W4D. # Actually it works like this. If they don’t turn up they are sent a letter and asked to explain why. All they have to day is get a Dr Certificate and they walk. Anyway who wants to chase people around who really don’t care? It’s useless. #Google Earth; that might be closer to what you're looking for# That’s what I was referring to. . #How you would monitor what happens in the locations you find might be a problem though. # I don’t know yet. Other than not giving it to DPI RSPCA or Federal Gov. Not RSPCA and either. Perhaps AA could ask RSPCA national to acknowledge AA and PAACT as an accepted Animal welfare org and we could get some funding for staff for them through MLA. After all they have plenty of our money. However they would also need the independent advice of trained stock men- perhaps aboriginal before making a complaint. Maybe we could fund a helicopter and vet to do with the stockmen. Let’s think about it. Tar Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 24 August 2008 5:01:57 AM
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Landline ran a great story on Tony Burke. Credit to Tony for
take the time to inform himself. He clearly understands the difference between animal welfare and animal rights, something that many have a problem with. Sounds like Kevin Rudd was wise to choose him as Minister for Agriculture. Gertrude, Google Earth does not show constant active satelite pictures of the world, as you presume. Yes, there are pictures of most parts of the planet, but they can be months old or years old. The technology has clearly confused you. Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 24 August 2008 2:35:43 PM
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Yabby
Bugger' back to the drawing board. Your correct technoogy confuses me. I even hate computers with a passion. 'However' they we are using all sorts of tech to monitor growth. I cant see why we can not have a national register for farmers where by the log how many head they have. We could match that with all current data + known droughts and floods in a twenty year pattern. Possibly we could get some extra help through heath departments under state and federal Governments. We all know when areas are overstocked the animals run a higher risk of picking up disrease from soil and that can be passed onto people. Your mob are doing some of this work in WA. Addmitley they are not doing it for the reasons I have in mind. but as they say if you have got the technology then why not share it.= http://www.pasturesfromspace.csiro.au/ Apparently Googels got pics of every street including cars and one bloke walking down the street in his undies- so the technogolys there they would just need to update it. Thats going to cost a bit but would be a great weapon in the fight against terroism down the track for example. We could practise on the farmers:) Just think of the advantages if tourists or farmers get lost in the bush. Wouldnt it be nice to know yabbs if you got lost out there the girls would be watching and ride out and rescue you:) Or fly in in their helicopter. Hilarious + before you start I am just mucking about. Now on a more serious note - Whats this about Landline and Tony Burke- Did I miss something Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 24 August 2008 5:41:01 PM
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The local Job Futures agency that I know of does this from their own office - you provide them with the access details to your website and what updates you want, and they just do it. It isn't a matter of them actually working for you; they are working for the Job Network/Community Work Co-ordinator. They manage websites for a number of NFPs, and they are a-political; that is, without bias. Seeking to be a W4D provider in your own right would be far more complicated.
I haven't been involved in that sector for some time, but the CWCs in your area might be the Salvation Army, Business and Employment - organizations like that. They have the best of technology, certainly at Job Futures. And people do not have a choice about W4D.
With regard to your second question, that's beyond my technical expertise too, but have a look at Google Earth; that might be closer to what you're looking for. How you would monitor what happens in the locations you find might be a problem though.
Nicky