Yabby, of course, would think Tony Burke was the eighth wonder of the world because he preaches the gospel according to MLA. Put him on one of the bottom decks on the "Al Kuwait", the "Torrens" (recently detained YET again, in Darwin) or the "Maysora" (but not the "Becrux")for a four week voyage and see how he feels then, After that, put him on a truck in the Middle East for 12-14 hours in 45 degree heat, or tie him to the roof racks of a car, with his legs tied together, and drag him into a Middle Eastern slaugherhouse (without forgetting to beat him over the head all the way). His views after that, if he were able to speak, would be interesting, especially after his throat was cut.

PALE, I'm sure there is satellite technology out there but that's not my area of expertise. Whatever you tried to monitor in that way would, I expect, cost a small fortune. MLA's statistics may not be the most reliable, either. I was told the other day that LiveCorp/MLA's stats by "state of origin" say that no animals from Tasmania have been exported live (sheep since 2006 and cattle 2006-3007 from memory), yet the Tasmanian government says that, although it "doesn't know how many", 15,000-20,000 sheep from Tasmania have been exported out of Portland in Victoria, and the local rag down there, TasCountry, advertises continually for cattle for Mexico and that haven of animal welfare, China. Go figure! So much for NLIS regulations.

Cheers
Nicky

*Yabby, of course, would think Tony Burke was the eighth wonder of the world*

There we have it, right here on OLO. The exaggerations of an
extremist like Nicky, to try and make her point. Fact is that
Tony Burke is clearly a rational fellow, who bothers to inform
himself. If you watched the programme, then you would know that
he was off to Indonesia, to see for himself what happened to cattle
that are shipped there.

He also spent some days out in the bush, on the stations, to see
how those cattle are bred, etc. Unlike our paper shuffler Nicky,
who claims to know it all, by shuffling papers.

Its high time that you went and spent a bit of time in the country
Nicky, on some real farms, with real farmers and real animals,
to understand the industry a bit better.

Yabby, it is high time you went to the Middle East on the same sort of journey, under the same conditions, as I have recommended for Tony Burke, then YOU might have a clue what you are talking about.

Nicky

"He (Burke) also spent some days out in the bush, on the stations, to see how those cattle are bred, etc."

Please answer me Yabby. Did he witness an ovarectomy being performed on a fully conscious cow?

Dickie, you are free to watch Landline on Monday mornings, when
it is repeated on ABC, to see what he saw.

If he was concerned about any single procedure on farm, he would
have all the experts to call on for advice and informed comment.

Ill informed emotion and empathy are all very sweet, but not
very factual. There was recently a bloke on radio, discussing
the procedure that you are concerned about. He says that the cows
don't even flinch and he has performed thousands. Perhaps you
did more then that, when you gave birth.

I asked my livestock vet about your concerns and he says its not
an issue. He knows far more then you know about cattle.

You girls still have this problem of major empathy, but lack of
understanding when it comes to the difference between species.
Unlike pigs, you don't enjoy wallowing in mud. Unlike sheep,
you don't freely sleep in your own dung. The list goes on.

For heavens sake, Yabby, wake up to commercial reality! These people have a commercial interest in "livestock". What else are they going to say? And what about my suggestion for your next trip?

Nicky