For heavens sake Nicky, the only one with a biased opinion is
yourself, due to your flawed ideology. Fanatics will be fanatics,
money does not even come into it. You are much like a religious
fanatic, you just can't help yourself.

Lawyers, doctors, specialists of varying professions all
express professional opinions. That is their job. They simply
know a great deal more about their field of expertise, then
a lay person like yourself, who is driven by little but emotion
and ideology, but no understanding.

I am wise enough to pay some attention to what specialists in
their field have to say. Unlike you, who is a furball of
empathy with little experience or understanding.

Yabby + Nicky

I cant see why we cant use the Googles. Its pretty Good
check this out.
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/1802010.jpg



I even got one up in the area I got some property and I can see quite clearly .

My point is its not impossible to do or update to daily.

Yabby said
He also spent some days out in the bush, on the stations, to see
how those cattle are bred.

Pale replies
Christ Yabby your not serious! But of course you are. Gee I hope his "advisor" went along to because let me tell you something he knows stuff all!

Stone the crows as much as I hated the others at least Vaile and a few of them were born in the bush with a farming background.

It just goes to show how irresponsible Rudd is puting people into a job as the Minister of anything with NO background especially agriculture.

Yabbs said
Unlike sheep,
you don't freely sleep in your own dung. The list goes on.

pale comments
They do that when they are cold if there is no protected area. I have a picture of how things used to be years ago .= big trees with girths the sizes of a car. Lots of shelter from bad weather shade in the summer.However some nutters decided the clear all the scrub and trees in their greed.

Yabby said
Fact is that
Tony Burke is clearly a rational fellow, who bothers to inform
himself. If you watched the programme, then you would know that
he was off to Indonesia, to see for himself what happened to cattle
that are shipped there.

Pale replies
Thats nice Yabby that he has decided he should "know something" ??.

These blokes know diddly squat about live stock.

I have fair idea what hes looking at in Indonesia which is WHY we didnt want Dr Wirthless getting involved without us - But I am not going there again because it sets Nicky off who thinks i am just being a smart arse or its a case of sour grapes.

Yabby, your "specialists" in their field are saying what they are paid to say because they have a commercial interest in the industry (as far too many politicians have in the live export trade. At the end of the day, it does not take a "specialist" to recognize cruelty when they see it.

So Burke is having a few nice little tours to find out what he is being paid to know - and listening only to vested interests. Excellent. We will now see his unbiased assessment of animal cruelty in the "livestock industries". Get real.

PALE, I looked at your link, but what you're after is "real time" images of what is going on at any point on the map. I don't know if such a medium exists, someone more wise with technology might.

Nicky

Nicky

It would certainly take someone with more It skills them I - Thats for sure. Still its got to be worth looking into.

Perhaps you could ask PETA to find someone etc..

This type of tracking animals was stronly supported by Muslim leaders RSPCA QLD in their Sub to Animal Welfare Senate Enquires- and on trucks.

They did request for all groups to work to support that.
However they requested they contact our office- so they you go- Not one enquiry into that or to support them to reopen plants in Australia with their assistance.

Its got to make you wonder really doesnt it.

I take it their excuse was they didnt like pale so bugger the animals and a very good progect.

Then you ask me why we work with RSPCA QLD?
You have got to be kidding!

PALE The Australian Animal Welfare Strategy conference is currently underway on the Gold Coast - did you attend?

That's a very good question, PF - PALE, did you attend? Bidda Jones did an excellent interview on the ABC Country Hour from the conference.

PALE, I am not in contact with PETA so cannot ask them anything like that. With regard to your senate submission, I did happen to read that, but it's more than likely that others would not have. It really was not relevant to the Bill itself, or the Explanatory Memoranda.

Also, other groups (if they did read that particular submission) may have decided that such a system was a) not workable and/or b) they would not want to operate anything under the control of PALE and its Muslim allies. If they were going to do it they are more than capable of doing it themselves without external interference of vested interests. We have been down this path SO MANY TIMES.

Whatever - no-one actually made it happen.

For your idea in this case, you probably need a smart teenager to tell you how to do it, they are far more technologically savvy. Or, as I suggested before, one of the Job Network agenices which deals with websites for NFPs may have some ideas.

Nicky