sung wu “service to the community and the sometimes nebulous and ambiguous directions of their political masters (also servants of the public I believe).”

There in lies the BIG problem of powerful government, loss of respect for the rights of the individual over the expedient needs of the empowered bureaucrat.

“apropos the morality or legality, of direction/s given to them by their political masters, then they should either resign or strike..." !

Idealism, in it's purist form. However impractical or quixotic it
may be. Must admit though, I totally agree with him, fanciful or not!”

Idealism, as any pragmatist will tell you is never achievable.

However, that does not make it any less an ideal to strive for.

Politics is supposedly the art of the possible, a standard which falls way short of anything approaching idealism and probably goes somewhere to explaining the expedient and sloppy attitude of most politicians.

However, when faced with bad but expedient legislation which unduly impinge on the rights of individuals, it does put police in a hard place.

But it should also put judges and magistrates in a hard place too.

Maybe the bench as a softer cushion to sit on than coppers, either way, when it comes to ethics and expediency, I would hope I have the courage to act ethically.

“COL, unfortunately I don't possess the necessary intellectual 'where with all' to mount any sort of persuasive arguement in support of the coppers.”

I dunno about that, you do a pretty good job : - )

“Unfortunately, a few fell by the wayside. And those few are enough to besmirch and sully the good fame and reputation of the majority.”

We all need to accept in the police and every other profession from the church (especially) to medicals and beyond, that people change and some who end up bad were OK when they went through the selection process.

IMHO, the failing of the police, as an organization, will only ever be if they fail to route out those bad ones

ASymeonakis “Col Rouge
Simple I discover that you are better than I thought, for me democracy and freedom of expression are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!,”

Thank you, all that I write is aimed at protecting the individual from the excesses of the state or large organisations.

Ultimately, we experience most things as individuals, not as a community or society.

Democracy and freedom of expression, association etc is no different.

No point in having a strong and powerful society if it comes at a price bought through the subjugation of the individual.

Although the Church of Rome would not agree with me but then, nor would Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Robert Mugabe or any other despotically motivated tyrant or tyrannically (power) motivated theocrat.

Fight every fine .
The chance of getting a judge that can't see through the bull is very
high nowadays.
Make the officer spend most of their time in court and then they may ,just maybe , learn to use the discretionary power they have to warn and teach the right way.
Has any senior officer told the new constable's that being called a pig should bring a thank you.
I was ,at first use, told by a police officer very early in life that this was an acronym for , Pride Integrity and Guts ,and it made me
very aware that these men and women mostly earn their respect .
As for the main intention of this post I will be complaining that the political ads that annoy me and ruin my pleasure and just maybe press charges over
the union stickers plastered everywhere .

"My overall concern is with One World Church and what it will do to christian believers in the endtimes."

Fine but you were pointing the finger at Catholicism based on numerology, lies, and then took a swipe at it for calling people on earth Father suggesting that God prohibits that. So do you and other people in your church refrain from calling anyone on earth father or were you being a hypocrite? Sorry if I'm biting on that but I can't believe a pentecostal using a Jehovah's Witness scripture twisting and you really need to think about what you are doing.

You do realize that our Churches are not at war but both Churches have a problem with lies (the Jesuit's claims about the Pope, the admissions of the Mystery Babylon propagators), dabbling in the occult(numerology), and Jehovah's Witness' beliefs (pretending that it is forbidden to call anyone on earth father when they do it themselves to convince Catholics to become JWs)(the primary objection for both our Churches though is that they call themselves Christians but don't believe Our Lord is God).

Dear CJ,

I've got another one for you,
(seen on a billboard in LA).

"In God We trust,
everyone else pays cash!"

Im not picking on you mjpb.
Those words about not calling anyone on earth are not Jehovahs Witnesses words they are Jesus Christs' if you care to read Matthew 23:9. Click on it.

We dont call anyone father in the pentecostals.
I might call him/her Pastor or just use his/her first name (we're real friendly...not much religion for us pentecostal born againers).

Knowledgeable christian folk do not approve of the RC Empire it primarily being a mutation of the old Caesars.
The Inquistion showed her real heart and apoligies dont chnage that heart.
The same evil spirit powers that got RC-ism up and running are still in control of much of the system today.
The move towards total control of ALL of the worlds religions and cultures by the Vatican offers misery for many if it really gets going.