Nothing much has changed here with posts in this topic dominated by the predictable Christian fundamentalist BS as practised by Boaz and Gibo. xenophobia, paranoia and absurdity reign supreme.

Muslims everywhere need a good PR team. Not like that goose Kazar Trad who was the eternal apologist for the ex mufti of Sydney, but one who will speak up for the great majority of Muslims and disassociate them from the few extremists who grab the headlines and are responsible for the entire Muslim religion being held in such low regard. Why they don't scream their objections to these lunatics themselves I don't know.

And another Pauline Hanson, this time from a Camden backyard? Probably. There are enough xenophobic fools to support a rebirth. Just have a good read of this thread. It's clear they still are alive and full of hate and fear.

Gibo,

Just on your earlier comments:

RE: China is invading
RE:Indonesia is invading
RE:lets ramp up defense spending

As I say to most people who begin to arrive at these sort of conclusions, perhaps it's time you got a nice patch of land somewhere, dig a vegie patch and till the land etc? No internet, no news, no phones. books, yes. I hope someone offers me the same advice if I become that irrational.

Dear Ditch....

<but one who will speak up for the great majority of Muslims and disassociate them from the few extremists who grab the headlines and are responsible for the entire Muslim religion being held in such low regard.>

and respond as follows:

One major problem with not just moderate Muslims, but also Westerners/Aussies/English etc.. is the intimidation by the radicals, whether real or perceived.

Tom Zrieka, spokesman for the Lebanese Muslim Association received death threats within a day of supporting the call for Hilali to be removed.

See this pls
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article1517364.ece

Much as most 'tolerant' Aussies, including Camdenites would like to believe that this is not the 'real' world.. it is.

I cannot imagine "peace loving moderates" who just want to get on with life and educate their kids etc..standing up to the hideous thought of 'some Muslim brothers coming to visit'.

So.. although Mrs McCulloch would be totally unsuitable for anything except as fuel for a 'xenophobic mob'
The concerns of the Camden residents remain real, and valid.

Too little has been said about the Quranic society which shares the address of '152-156 Haldon St Lakemba'and 'that' is what might be termed "Radical Central"...

The following have worshipped or have connections with it.

· Willie Brigitte

· Faheem Khalid Lodhi, currently facing seven terror related charges.

· Izhar Ul Haque, currently facing charges in relation to a 20 day training course with LET in Pakistan.

· Bilal Kjazal, and his brother, facing charges under new Australian terrorist laws.

· Zak/Zekky Mallah, currently facing terrorist related charges.

· Mukhtur Mohamed Sayid, with his wife Sitaka Bonjak, recently arrested in Nairobi, Kenya and deported.

· Murat Okfeli, arrested in the Netherlands for membership of an organization linked to Al Qaeda.

· Saleh Jamal, currently facing terrorist charges including being involved with Al Qaeda

(some of the above are not 'current' now)

I would hardly call concerns over a society sharing the address with the above to be paranoid Islamophobia.
http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/main.asp

ASymeonakis,
I'm afraid I don't quite get the gist of your reply. What I would like to have answered by any religious group is; Why can't people believe in their faith within themselves without forcing their neighbors to have to tolerate whatever is involved in following their beliefs ? How can putting up a church or a mosque or whatever other facilities help them into an afterlife which may or may not be a fact. By all means, practice & follow your beliefs in your home but, but , refrain from forcing others to have to look at your church or your mosque or whatever. I'm sure that the majority of believers of any faith can quite happily co-exist. Where this harmony is jeopardised is when believers force their doctrine blatantly upon others. If you must believe then do so without me having to look & listen to it. By all means ask me if I share your beliefs but also accept if I answer you that I don't. That way we'll both be clear about our feelings & get on with our lives.

individual,

Football and drinking is the religion of thousands of Aussies. Do you object to stadiums and pubs being built? We have to put up with drunken unsocial behaviour from the worshipers. Many soccer fans put those believing in Jihad to shame.

Runner,
Yes I do object to that & rather openly as well. I cop constant flak from those Aussies. If you go back in the forum you'll find that I have made reference to the mindlessness of mass sport & saturation TV coverage of this mindlessness.