As I understand such matters no one can start a school and teach anything they like. The State, either Federal or State, has a plethora of legislative sanctions that controls what can be and can't be taught. The many recent 'Christian' schools also must abide by these laws and regulations.

So I am rather dismayed at the vitriolic reaction to any 'Muslim' school.

That some sections of the community find all this rather challenging is understandable given the entrenched racist attitudes of most Australians. We can't even deal with our own Indigenous culture without backward looks towards a White Australia Policy.

The Islamic community is, quite rightly, demanding the same rights as has been claimed by the 'Christian' community - no more, no less. But to drag into the mix the work of the extremists as exemplars defies understanding - particularly in the light of the 'terrorist's attacks against Iraq all in the name of 'liberation'. Sounds familiar. Exactly the same arguments can be directed at Christainity. But here there is the thundering silence.

The State, either Federal or State, has a plethora of legislative sanctions that controls what can be and can't be taught. The many recent 'Christian' schools also must abide by these laws and regulations.

Australia -- land of make laws and don't enforce them. Dogs on the beach syndrome. Has anyone ever seen anyone fined for having a dog on the beach? The law is communicated with signs every 50 metres or so but the law is not enforced. It is part of Australian culture to make laws and then make little effort to put the human and other resources into play for enforcement.

You are deluding yourself if you think laws will effectively control what is taught. If a school were prosecuted the punishment would be at a token level. There are laws against hate speech but apparently they only apply to Christian theologians in Victoria. Sheik Hell Lay He remains untouchable.

Saturday schools abound. These schools are supposed to be for the teaching of language i.e. English. Instead de-facto HSC tutorials and cramming sessions are conducted. Who polices that? No one.

Surely it's not about racism, it's about culture. In this case Muslim culture, which is based on irreconcilable differences in attitudes between those of most mainstream religions practiced in this country.

There are opinions and practices that are very much against my own, held by other religions here, but they don't impinge on me in quite the same way.

A small victory against the totalitarian ideology of Islam. The people from Camden have set a good example. Prevention is better than cure.

Muslims have a habit of burning, attacking and killing not only Christians but Buddhists, Hindus, etc. for example, recently in Indonesia and also in Nigeria.

http://www.bosnewslife.com/asia-pacific/indonesia/3607-news-alert-indonesia-muslims-burn-christian

http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/nigeria_&_human_rights.htm

The thing to do now is to examine closely the religious teachers in the mosques and madrassahs in the whole of Australia which cause Muslim people to be violent and behave irrationally all over the world

Is not it very strange 3,000 submissions about the school from local residents, with only 50 in favour of the development?
Who organized all this movement? Why so many people and so fast followed the organizers? WHERE STOP THE RIGHTS FROM THE MAJORITY AND START THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES, THE RIGHTS FROM MUSLIMS in our case. Why other communities can open a school there, there is Greek orthodox school there, and not Muslims? What will happen if other communities with the support of right extremists and knowing what happened to Camden, block the Muslims to build schools or mosques? Can we allow a small minority to determine the relations between Australians? Can we allow a small group of right extremists to put at risks the future of our country? They are not simple against the Muslims, they are against all of us , against all from non Anglo Saxon background. If we do not stop them at the very begin, if we leave them to succeed then there is a huge probability their success to act as a snowball and create really big problems in Australia. I hope, I wish the Muslims to appeal and Australian Authority to sent a strong message to every one that somewhere stopped the logical rejection and start the racist one. This is not acceptable and will not past.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

BD, How have you been?

I must admit I havnt heard that excuse before (about a hadith not being in the original Arabic) -- and I thought I have seen them all. I will add it to my collection of excuses that Muslims use:
http://www.kactuzkid.com/blame.html

I have hardcopies of some of the hadith in English and Spanish, so I can't say if not in the original Arabic. Kaysar should write to the MSA and USC and ask them to remove all those fake verses from their site. Ha!

Sadly, the Islamic school will probably be approved (someday). That is what usually happens because we accept laws and under the law an Islamic organization must be treated like all others. They use our freedoms, laws and good will against us. The problem is we don't use our freedom of speech and right to vote to fight Islmatic hate, discrimination and terror. We pretend Islam is just another religion. It isn't!

Kaysar, tell me how you can say "Praise be unto him" after the name of a man that did the the vile things your prophet did, as recorded in Islam's writings? Or are they all fakes? I notice that you (and all other Muslims) always say that we (infidels) don't understand or know Islam. We read the Quran, study hadith and all the early works and we still don't understand how peaceful Islam really is. Or could it be that we take words for what they mean and we apply the same standards to Islam and your dear prophet that we do to everybody else? Is that wrong?

One of the most fun pages I have ever done is about all the special privileges Mohammad gave himself. Don't Muslims ever ask the obvious questions about these things? Isn't it kind of suspicious?
http://www.kactuzkid.com/suspicious.html

Kactuz