Please...we are not to forget that Islam has a global plan.
The plan is no different from Communisms.
You, me, everyone has to be brought...one way or other...to allah and mohammed.
Everybody seems to want to control these days.
We mustnt allow Islam to move further into Christianity in Australia.
We must never forget September 11...it was an Islamic idea.
A really good dvd to purchase is Obssessionthemovie.

PS:
heard an interesting story at home church last night.
Seems my wifes church had a whole pile of copper wire stolen of the roof and local police think its some of the Lebanese people going around stealing wire off Christian churches all over Sydney and also damaging them. Maybe payback (again and ongoing) for the Cronulla riot?

Gibo,

Since 2006, copper wire theft has become common all over Australia because of high copper prices. People steal it from train tracks, train stations, building sites and wherever else they can find it and sell it to scrap metal merchants. See many accounts of it here: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enAU260AU260&q=copper+wire+theft&btnG=Search&meta=

It is nothing to do with "payback".

Gibo: "local police think its some of the Lebanese people going around stealing wire off Christian churches all over Sydney and also damaging them."

Wire was stolen from your wife's church. The cops were called and explained there was something of an epidemic. One of the "elders" suggests to the cops that the offenders might be Lebos. "Might be," says the cop noncommittally, and so it becomes lore. Someone else (subconsciously, probably) shifted the emphasis of the story to make it sound as if these gangs were targeting churches. You yourself added the terms "Crunulla" and "payback". A young couple attends the Sunday service, their seven-year-old in tow. Who overhears someone repeating what they have overheard about Lebo gangs vandalising Christian churches with wire as payback.

And so prejudice begins.

Well, Lebanese gang activity is for real, but it's because they're Lebanese, not because they're muslim.

I dont see that you made the story any clearer with your alleged interpretation of events Vanilla.
I happened to believe the christian testimony about the copper wire (only two persons removed from the actual police/church leadership conversations) and I certainly know human nature and I have been to lectures on Islam and I do know the Lebanese (though not all are at fault, just many of the wayward fathers who teach their boys the wrong way from very early years to disrespect Australian society and Australian girls) and I was a cop and I know them through that career work and I did observe what happened in a nearby Sydney suburb over several decades as the Lebanese muslims moved in and forced out the anglo-saxon families sometimes in a most ungodly manner and I did read about the Lebanese gangs and how the "thug children" did rape Australian girls and Ive seen the reaction of members of those gangs when their buddies got canned and the direspect and hate those gangs members showed authority as their buddies went in for decades of time for those rapes and so it goes... regarding muslims and Lebanese and Islam and the invisible spirit powers behind Islam and what they have done to those people from those nations...making them what they have become today.
I believe theres a war coming within Australia with Islam...and we arent ready.

BOAZ_David,

I read the text you posted from the Hadith, well at least enough to understand your point. It would seem you have an axe to grind, perhaps you’re a Christian or perhaps you just like to take the literal meaning of everything you come into contact with? Sure, there’s some pretty nasty sentiment expressed in that writing, as there is in many dogmatic religious texts. Perhaps you could look into Hermeneutics, it should help with your fears.
As soon as an Imam gets too carried away with the “let’s get ‘em “ talk in Australia, they are quickly investigated, so I am not fearful as many seem to be on this forum. I don’t expect the people of Camden to become more articulate, just less racist. Islam is not a race, yes, but rejecting people on the basis of their ethnicity IS racist. Islam=Arab=has extremist views=wants to blow up Camden?

Hi John... thanx for the perspective. Glad you at least recognized the line of reasoning..and..that if taken literally my point is valid.

Let me clarify..yes, I'm Christian, and..yes I do have an axe to grind.

John.. the issue of 'literalness' in things religious is an area which really deserves closer inspection. Hermeneutics :) I studied that for 3 yrs mate.

In the broadest sense, Islam is about 'literalness'. If you look at how the faith is structured, and particularly the hadith, you will see they are categorized in groups which define human behavior. Muslims will usually claim "Islam is a total way of life".. and they are right, because your life is split up into such things as 'what to do when you enter a bathroom' (so the goblins don't getcha:).. there are 'literal' ways of doing just about everything.

Please have a peruse of the headings in this link.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/009.smt.html

The very first heading is this:

"It is forbidden....to divorce a woman during her menses"

This rather says it all about Islam ..which is about 'permitted/forbidden'.. thats 'how' life is structured.

Let's extend this first title a bit further... from the text:

Question:

'Umar b. Khattib (Allah be pleased with him) asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) about it, (Divorcing his wife during period)

whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:

Command him 'Abdullah b. 'Umar) to take her back (and keep her) and pronounce divorce when she is purified.

See how it works ? It all comes back to "What Mohammad said" and..what the Quran says...."literally".