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Only in Australia!! This is interesting, what do olo readers think?

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Bring diseases into the nation – I know I have heard of a number of African coming to Australia then having unprotected sex with people here knowing full well that they have aids. (They have all been jailed for it)
TB is also an increasing threat
With regards to bring in the third cousins dog you are so correct when you say the TPV cant bring the dog in but full fledge “aussies” can!

Yeah I know there children don’t get extra payments but they are more likely to need extra help due to the fact that there parents can't help them.

They are contributing to the cost of housing. They live in a house that could otherwise have been rented by somebody else thus squeezing the market. They are a small group on a year by year basis but when you throw in there 3rd cousins who come not as refugee’s but as immigrants the group starts to swell quite a bit. I doubt if any of them are builders so they are straight away a big negative with regards to the building sector.

The terrorist on trial in Melbourne are either refugees sons of refugee or backdoor refugees (married in) I think one is also a “David Hicks” style Australian
Posted by EasyTimes, Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:08:05 AM
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EasyTimes
our taxes are wasted with one million ways, there are one million ways we can help Australian pensioners etc Australian in needs. You do not not care for taxpayers or for Australian in needs BUT YOU ARE AGAINST THE REFUGEES. I am sure you belong to a very small minority of Australians.
Posted by ASymeonakis, Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:31:53 AM
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People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming
You can not understand very simple things. I explained you many times, this was not from me but from the report from human Rights Commission of UN and I gave you the link to read the full report. I think if explained to you this simple think one million time you will continue to ask me the same think. IT WAS FROM THE REPORT FROM HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION OF UN. ASK THE THEM!
Posted by ASymeonakis, Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:39:27 AM
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PALE,
You seem to remember me.
I was asked by the Australian Government to come to Australia, not that I was in need for it as such.
As for refugees, I view that if people come to Australia without prior permission (visa) then because of the federal government having accepted the Refugee convention provisions then it must ensure that a person claiming to be a refugee is a refugee, by assessing them in a proper and humane manner.
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For example, the Commonwealth has constitutional powers to locate all “aliens” to a certain area and as such may utilise one of the islands for assessment purposes. However, I do not accept it to be some kind of concentration camp detention centre!
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Say assessment must be done within 6-weeks (to avoid long-term detention) and then the government either charges the person for unlawful entry into Australia or accept the person to be a refugee. If the person is accepted to be a refugee then the person be transferred to a normal area where they can from then on freely move about with all rights as any other person has.
If the person is held not to be a refugee then the commonwealth must charge the person and place the matter before a State Court for adjudication. The Court then can either allow more time for assessment, under such provisions as the Court may deem appropriate or the court may order the deportation of the person.
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By this, the Immigration Department has no roll in locking up people or deporting them as then the Courts will make those decisions in a judicial manner.
This would make it all a lot cheaper, and avoid the disastrous conduct now inflicted upon refugees.
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More over a habeas corpus application should be given the moment a person is detained so the person can fill in his/her details and seek a Court to make a judicial decision, anfd this then can avoid people entitled to be in Australia to suffer as Vivian Alvarez Solon, Cornelia Rau and other did!
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Thursday, 17 April 2008 1:57:03 AM
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Come this thread is not a lot different than any other.
PALE addresses only the point they want to and ignores questions they can not answer.
We find the thread a fenceless paddock and wander from subject to subject without regard for do not divert threads .
Racism is mixed with fear and anti this and that, to think! a racist lie! a trash e mail! started it.
We fall over one another to get involved but what part of the thread are we to follow?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 17 April 2008 6:40:38 AM
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To All:
This thread was started using a message that has been circulating the Internet for quite some time! I believe that the issue posed was (whether true or not?).....were Refugees in Australia getting a better deal than other citizens?

We can rabbit on forever whether this is a legitimate statement/ question or not, but in the end we have to accept that regardless of the rights and the wrongs, there are some citizens in this country who do NOT want Refugees. Migrants or the like! At the same time we have to face reality in the fact that Refugees, Migrants etc will themselves never refute the idea of their presence here as commonsense indicates that it would be counter-productive to their individual situations!

In a nutshell, ....some people are Refugees! ....some people are Migrants!....and some people don`t want ANY of them, ....so why continue a needless argument?.....after all the whole issue is up to the individual and his or her own thoughts and conscience!
Posted by Cuphandle, Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:15:39 AM
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