The only way to sort out problems in places like Eritrea is to do another Iraq style invasion. And no I am not going to debate the Iraq war with you as I have already done it with TRTL.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1180&page=0#21206

It will be politically unpopular as I am sure all the people who love paying hundreds of thousands of dollars per refugee hear will be violently against it. (There not very smart you see) But there are no easy solutions to tough problems like that of Eritrea.

Is it just me or is CJ Morgan contribution to this thread similar to that of the contribution an agitated barking flea bitten Cur has to peaceful nights sleep?

I don't think I have to put 'spin' on anything ET, your intent is quite clear by itself. Yes, I'm sure Mohammed is the most common name for the refugees coming here, and they are all very angry. Or so I read on blog somewhere.

You got one thing right, there are no easy solutions. Even a 'superpower' like the USA has problems with just one country.

How many troops do we have by comparison? And you want to invade where? I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms. You should be a Defence Department advisor, you'd be great (just be sure to spell "they're" correctly on the application form when discussing someone's intelligence).

Perhaps for the wrong reasons PALE got the thread going.
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As a “CONSTITUTIONALIST” I am too aware that the Framers of the (federal) Constitution desired that all people were treated equally!
As they made clear once they are in they should have the same rights.
As such, other then specific legislation for a particular race (Subsection 51(xxvi) I view there is no constitutional powers for the commonwealth to deny “refugees” equal rights, including social security rights.
Actually, possibly a lot cheaper in the long run then locking them up at huge cost and then having to feed the medical bill once they are accepted as being actual refugees but in the mean time driven crazy in the concentration camp styled detention centres.
The Federal Government seeks more and more power but can’t even handle the Migration power in a proper manner!
I entered Australia by choice, my wife and her late husband had to flee a communist regime to do so!
Don’t blame refugees for cost incurred because of certain Federal Government policies. Blame the real culprits, the ministers allowing this to eventuate.
Refugees rather would like to be out in the workforce earning an income then to be locked at huge expenses in some barb wired concentration camp!
Ordinary refugees are in that status not as a form of entertainment but because of the suffering they endured.
The Commonwealth had every right to reject any refugee (Toy decision) but then it signed the ‘Refugee convention” and by this signed away, so to say, its right to deny refugees a fair and proper treatment.
Blaming a refugee for seeking to access the rights the Commonwealth of Australia has itself provided for them ( to enter Australia) hardly is the way to go.

Knee deep in racism as we are I think we can find a continuing thread here I have already.
While time consuming it truly is worth re reading the posts of some.
And after you can ask how can racism be so blindly excepted by so many?

I'm sure that the larger %age of refugees would rather not be refugees in the first place. To flee to another country & then have to cope with all this bureaucratic nonsense must surely take a heavy toll.
Part of the refugee problem is that outsiders who decide to go into a conflict country to prevent more people from becoming refugees are accused of illegal invasion or words to that effect. To those anti-invasion groups I say stop preventing the forces from preventing people becoming refugees. I'm sure if the forces hadn't gone into Iraq then there'd be a lot more refugees & even more victims of atrocities.. if we can't deal with refugees then help people not to become refugees.

Belly said

I for one would like to understand why anyone would post like that?
Why display a complete disregard for reality and truth?

pale replies

The discription I gave of ships entering this country involved in the cruel live trade belly is "exactly the national sercurity."

Used to be about four to six staff. Well there you go- you have now learned something about our fax national sercurity.

Tonysaid
I am simple trouble maker, ‘if you want peace prepare for war, prepare to fight for your rights, FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS

pale comments
Tony we have always fought for our rights and freedom.

Men and women who travled to the end of earth to help other countries remain that way also.

I might add if our Anzacs had not of done that then there wouldnt have been any free green Australia for people to run to.We would either be saying konishia or hi hitlter.


Anton you will never say what is it you want voted out.


Now you can deny it all you like but back in this forum you said- "That money was for us- when refering to ASTIC funds."

So I ask you the question again. Why would a Greek Migrant consider ASTIC money was 'for us-' and who are us.?



ASTIC funding was for the Aboriginal People. Simply as that.

Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, said

I entered Australia by choice, my wife and her late husband had to flee a communist regime to do so!
pale comments

Hello Mr Gerrit So I am sure your wife and her late husband were very grateful to Australia for being here and taking them yes?

Also yourself depite that you came under different circumstances yes?

Now from past experience I recognise you as a pretty good person offering some time to advise a lady with a legal problem.- So you are or were a lawyer for memory yes? - No?

Also pls advise what type of sercurity checks you think we should do on people entering Australia both by plane and boat?

Do you agree livecorpe is good enough?