“Vanilla 5 stars for effort!”
I wish I could say the same for you!

“You moved from refugee to temp protection to citizens then back again…”
Obviously, a refugee is a TPV holder before they become a refugee. The rights they hold with a TPV are part of the rights they hold as a refugee. Once granted either permanant residence or citizenship, they have the same rights as other Australians, and you argument begins to collapse. However, if you want to look at the rights refugees have AFTER they’ve been granted citizenship, that’s fine with me.

“ I would also include their children or anybody they marry into Australia.”
That definition of refugee incorrect. You could marry a refugee. Would that make you one?

“ As the link below says there is a big problem with people marrying a “refugee Australian” then divorcing them under Australian law…”
No it does not. (Unless you’ve posted the wrong link?) It says that it is possible some MIGRANTS (not refugees in paticular) may manipulate the system to get people in to the country. It’s a legal loophole, and I agree it needs to be fixed. The Family Law Council adds that “it is not equipped to investigate the extent of immigration or social security fraud resulting from serial sponsorship of new partners or abuse of the divorce provisions of the Family Law Act, it merely draws these possible problems to your attention.“

“Seeing that most of these people probably have never seen a doctor many would have on going niggerly problems which they would have just lived…”
As I said, please link to your proof. I’m afraid you don’t count as a reputable source.

TBC...

I think that poor old ET has "on going niggerly problems".

What a classic Freudian slip!

".....after all the whole issue is up to the individual and his or her own thoughts and conscience!"
Posted by Cuphandle, Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:15:39 AM

You know Cuphandle, this is the second time on this thread that you have been critical of the style of posting.
You have started your own thread on the topic.

Your above statement is absolutely correct! It IS up to the individual. Nothing is perfect. OLO isn't perfect. Its posters aren't perfect ('cept me), threads DO meander. Perhaps it's frustrating.

I don't like the views of many here;-I don't like them disagreeing with my views,-BUT, it IS the nature of the beast. It is.

ALL threads eventually peter out, some sooner than others.

It's the way it is Cuphandle. It's the way it is.

The issues ARE up to the individual and his/her thoughts and conscience.

Hi Ginx!
I simply wanted to illustrate that this thread, like a lot of others, has degenerated into a churlish and petty exchange of insults between opposing schools of thought!

At this time there have been 108 posts, with very little being proved or acheived one way or the other.

Surely our world has more pressing and demanding priorities for people to exercise their brains by contributing their opinions to... or are we more inclined to the petty implications of Nichole Kidman`s morning sickness or similar mind-bending occurrences?

The nature of the beast is rather peculiar, especially if the beast is cornered!

The thing is Cups,-even though you can see it, and I can see it because we's perfick, they CAN'T see it because they THINK they are perfick as well.

Most opinions on OLO are rubbish;-except for me and thee....

.............an' I'm not sure about thee!!

Come Cuphandle you have clashed with some in threads too.
Are you saying we should duck away from saying what we think?
Ginx I find your two posts speak for me.
To stay silent is not to defend free speech, the thread did indeed start from a racist e mail it has found support and some refuse to read the evidence that it is a lie.
This new way you point to in your thread Cuphandle should not be via ignoring things that may start verbal tennis between us .
Life is indeed the way it is nothing will change that.