Philo claims to know professors of science, who are both members of his oddball congregation and simultaneously amti-evolutionists. As I recall, the equally oddball runner has made similar claims.

I challenge you to name them. If they are, indeed, real professors they are most likely being paid from the public purse and should be outed.

Foxy
Where do I start? Should I.

http://www.halakindmeats.com/

Perhaps bit by bit I may start to share 'some things'. AFIC are only a small office with a handful of staff.
There have been times of hardship and unbelibable pressure, inta fighting receivership, elections and re-elections friendships laughter anger co operation good will deceit lays loyalty and then some.

If I disclose to the public some things I may be jeopardizing the only possibility to realize the goals of our program. If I don’t I then maybe …

Something has to change. Dr Ali has commented in the Muslim times. Ikabel enjoyed our person support for years including a letter of recommendation to John Howard.

Foxy I didn’t follow up on a request a meeting with the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs as we had no firm proposal to put to him due to the Muslims doing their usual back flip. We also heard no more on Paradise Country which raises serious concerns regarding some aboriginal’s statements they did not trust the white people or wish to follow through on programmes despite the offer of millions of government funding. This is far more typical in city type areas than regional- ‘at the moment’

Irrespective of what the Muslims may have signed they have not honoured the MOU nor have they really proceeded in the spirit of the document.

To them the MOU really means nothing if you judge by their conduct to date. Even if they are in breach they don’t worry we sue them and if we did what is the loss? It is an only an MOU after all.

I believe it premature to see Rudd unless you have some mandate/agreement with the Muslims – and to date they just jerk us infidels around.

Without a concrete proposal and the ability to say it has the full support of both HKM, Animal Rights, etc and the Muslim Council Rudd will just blow us off and say come back when you have something.

I am happy to help out with HKM as time permits with same commitment .

Fantastic replies Philo, Runner and Boaz

First to Philo for his attempt at semantics in order to evade the issue.

Second to Runner, for clearly demonstrating what a narrow mind set a fundamental belief in religion creates.

And last, but really honours to Boaz David for his completely unwarranted insults thus proving my point about the inherent rudeness that accompanies the religious extremist. Well done. Just have to wonder when Jesus preached insulting others different to themsevles, must have missed that on my bible classes.

And here we are, worrying about Muslims...

To the readers out there, remember that there a lot more fundy christians in Australia than there are fundy muslims - think about that.

Don't worry CJ they are both very sucessfull in their fields and operate sucessfull private businesses. They are international advisors one in space exploration and electronics [just retired], and the other in botany and horticulture holding international patents on horticultural products. The first a convinced six day creationist, the second a creation design exponent. He sees too many anomalies in evolution alone to be a credible science.

I don’t think the problem is with Muslims themselves but their religion. I believe it requires a medieval environment to survive. They haven’t achieved much since the 13th century have they? The economies of the Muslim countries seems parallel to the degree they embrace their religion. The exception is the oil exporters who are lucky enough to have a temporary windfall. Job opportunities are dismal in the Muslim world and this generates anger and envy especially among the educated and potentially more dangerous. The ability to read the Koran in Arabic does not have any application in the current world economy.

Fractelle: "To the readers out there, remember that there a lot more fundy christians in Australia than there are fundy muslims - think about that"

Indeed - I've been making exactly that point in this forum for some time.

I see that Philo avoids the point as usual. I think he knows a couple of fundy frootloops who have science degrees. So do I, but no way in the world will they ever be appointed "professors".

It seems that Philo is as loose with the truth as his brother in bigotry, Boazy. Remember his claim that those of us in favour of multiculturalism have "never lived in another culture"?