Nicky, the letters don't need to be from "veggie groups", but from
people lobbied to write by "veggie groups" The Catholics do
the same with abortion. They encourage members of the public to
write, after graphic photos etc. Emotional buttons are pushed
by people with agendas, is that not correct?

You see Nicky, I saw the nonsense that Peta put out over mulesing.
It was simply a distorion of the truth to shock. If you look at
their little video, its hoggets that are being mulesed. In 30
years, I've come across that one single time that I know of. But
it creates a graphic image, rather then showing what is standard
industry practise. Thats all I'm asking for. Unbiased information.
Is that so unreasonable?

As to stunning, I have no problem at all with it and yup they
should keep doing it. But I just think we need to understand
the science fully, so that we know what we are talking about
and have accurate information.

I've had huge arguments about this with Catholic pro life groups,
in regards to development of the human brain etc and at what stage
of fetal development it actually feels pain. This stuff matters.

So unbiased, accurate information by professionals is what I
am after. Then we can pass our judgements. Personaly I think
that is a reasonable stand to take.

Did someone not point out not long ago that Tasmanian slaughterhouses were for sale? Why did PALE not expand its operations down there?
Yabby
Can you please find out where what capasity still operating plant equipment price- well you know= The basics
Please.

Please please understand anybody seriously interested that type of Information would be required first.
Not to mention supply of stock
Are these operating.? So they have export licences?Are they Halal accredited? Or domestic. Or are they closed. If so for how long?
Small beasts such as sheep goats- Cattle? Is there someone to meet with Muslim reps from overseas to view the plants?
If you are for real and you email
www.halakindmeats.com
Or even get grant to call.[ Or anybody else for that matter.

The number is on the web site.

Yabby
Agree with you about the Catholics and their great debate.
I once read where Andrew Bartlett addressed them in regards to animal cruelty and he said= It would be very hard to inflict as much pain on something smaller than a grain of rice and unborn as it is the cruelty inflicted on animals in intensive farming and mal treatment.
Well I will leave you in peace and the thread was BTW Yabby= Did Kevin Rudd lie or in anyway set out to mislead the Australian Public before the elections with his chosen spokesperson and pre election policy?

You didnt ask me what Kery Obriens advisor said to me on the phone when he called Yabby regarding the live export situation.= Did you?
And here I was thinking you were interested in= truthful information.
Yabby the public "jammed" the talk back radio shows about live exports for goodness sake so why deny it.

I just dont understand you some times.

Hi all
I would imagine that it would be for a prospective buyer to contact these operations in Tasmania - known as Tasman Group, I believe. The last I heard anything about it, they were operating businesses, and reported to be halal accredited. They were at the time I read about it working three shifts. Best I can do from NSW.
Cheers
Nicky

Umm er, tar but its kind of not the way these people like to work to see their biz. No wonder why Yabby`s bolted.
I am not having a shot at you. I understand that you would not know . Theres a unspoken old school code.
Never mind.
Also unwise to give anybody involved in live exports that type of info.
I am `sure` it was done with the best of intention so `thanks`.
Here is the email address for anybody in the future `please.`

www.halakindmeats.com

Yabby- come back . How typically male you can be at times.

Hi whoever is still out there
As far as I know that information is a matter of public record. I had no difficulty finding it out from NSW, nor did associates in Victoria. It would certainly not be difficult to find out from whoever the selling agents are, for anyone how was interested. And given how such business deals usually operate, I would suggest that the first approach would have to come from a prospective buyer (not vice versa). That's business, in Australia. Anyway, I was just passing on what I've read.
Nicky.

Thanks Nicky
Look at the connections in the companies that were creditors in wa on that senate enquiry into abattoirs.
`Some` people may have mislead the enquiry
Away for 7 days
Meeting M leaders when I get back.If you email on the address I provided u may like to be there.

We are happy if u want to pay fare. but 'please' if u do want to come reply on the email address and not here. Likewise re abattoirs
tar.