As people are having problems with names mine is Jenny and i'm an exinmate of nearly every home and reform school in NSW.Firstly,i don't want or need compensation as i'm what's called a survivor and have made a nice life for myself.A lot of kids were damaged(black and white) from the treatment they received,and they are the ones who still need help.Once the statute of limitations is overturned maybe some reparation will be made.Most of the complainants were ill treated in the homes,more so than the foster families.Solicitors and counselling services are available to the ones who need help and groups of like minded people are banding together and comforting one another.I do not think an apology is worth a pinch of salt.Apologies are just words and mean nothing,especially when the perpetrators of the acts are nearly all dead.Stop this sort of thing happening again.That's what is most important.I don't believe that removing any child,black or white from an unsafe environment is evil.Unfortunately in the past,the places they were removed to,in some cases, were worse than where the kids came from.Happy New Year to you all.

Haygirl
Wow!
I am so proud of you. Your the real face of the brave and knowlegable.
Well good luck to you and thanks for the info.
I cant help but wish that you were running some of the programes.
Selfish of me I guess but you have "such wisdom" to give.

Merry Christmass darling girl and thanks for showing us "what real aboriginal [part] are made of."
Great stuff.
May God Bless you and keep you safe always.
Oh by the way. My name is Wendy and I am the President of PALE.
The other persons are Taryn[ part aboriginal also] and a GREAT lady Antje Germann born nut Aussie at heart and- members who forward comments via this office to be posted for them under the name of PALE.
See Belly what happens when somebody asks in a polite manner.
Happy New Year To all and a big hug for Sky from all of us at pale Belly.
Let us know what you name your name the new family member ok.

Listen to Haygirl because shes the light of love and wisdom.
The best gift of all at Christmass.

So I guess you just made up the bit about settlers witnessing Aboriginal gang rape of young girls, eh PALEIF, Taryn, Wendy, Antje or whoever you are today?

Which one of you made up the story - or was it a group fantasy?

haygirl I admire your strength and at no time ever wanted to devalue your past.
I understand that life can be cruel and no matter how easy some think it is to be accountable for your actions it is not so.
Have no doubt I have folks who lived such life in my family.
In fact as the oldest in that family it falls on me to help, I would never devalue such hurt, I however will never hide my view you have found the answer the only answer self help is the best aid.
Now pale, why do I bother?
The female insult aimed to hurt is your most often used tool.
The crawling arm over the shoulder of new comers and those you have just insulted come next.
Switching the debate to take spotlight of your muddled statements like whites watching rapes that NEVER HAPPENED come soon after.
No answer to my whole name being printed here?
No answer to who posts as pale today?
No explanation as to why some in pale share the one personality?
Some one in pale does understand the needless nature of one or more posters out puts we see short spaces without that poster then the barbed comments Begin again.

Morgan and Belly
It would seem neither one of you can read- Let alone reason!
What was said was- We have no way of knowing WHAT the first settlers saw when they arrived. It is possible they witnessed young being sexually used.
We simply do not know!

The fact still remains that neither You Morgan Or Belly or Haygirl or myself for that matter can apoligise for what WE did not do.
The fact also remains that many children loved their foster parents which was the only family they knew.
Many foster parents loved their children as well/
To refer to all of them as evil is a insult to the aboriginal children who loved THEIR Mums and Dads as well as their parents.
Think about it from ALL sides for All of the people.
Haygirl has more sense than both of you put together.

If there was a way of finding the abused kids and helping every single Aussie would support that!
BUT I cant personally apoligise for something my family played no part in.
Look at the public that walked the Harbour Bridge with the Aboriginal People.
What a proud day for Australia.
The people have spoken.

Haygirl has shown you up to be the trouble makers you are.
Good for Her.
My name is Taryn. I am part aboriginal. I think I know just a few more family stories going back than YOU.
Not all Foster parents were evil.
Some were.
From my point of view I would be very upset to hear my great grandparents foster people being called evil.
Why= Because that would have upset my past family members very much- They loved them.
Not so for a great great cousin who like Haygirl was abused.
Also for something to be called Evil you must show that it was for a evil intent or purpose.
There is no proof of that any more than there is some were abusing the kids.
We simply dont know what was witnessed!

Taryn here Wendy in another post in another thread today both posting as pale.
Ok? content Belly that is what matters content.
Haygirl only touched on the threads intent lightly, she highlighted her pain.
And totally different wrong, yes totally acts against her, why the praise?
I told her of my admiration for her strength and understanding she helped herself.
Taryn ,not unlike most who post as pale you heap praise on haygirl and seem to have your arm over her shoulder.
you claim she has bettered me?
It has to end! I just can not continue to find reason to talk to you.
Time and again I try to look for the good in your group, and time and again the OUT OF CONTROL INSULTS are my payment.
So I leave the thread, it had much to talk about, C J M organ and I differ in our views true differences but we can talk.
It is just not possible with your group!
I know after some time avoiding pale the arm will flop over my shoulder, it is the way you work.
But while I will debate issues with most I avoid street corner speakers who are only interested in their own words.
haygirl I want to remind you I never meant to insult you and look forward to seeing a thread you start about your problem.