hay girl I wonder how you think I did not know?
And do you think criminal actions allowed such miss treatment?
I understand no child no adult no human should be treated as you say.
Why not start threads about that miss treatment? surely while it is shameful , even while the welfare system was near the same as some of the stolen generation story it is different.
Have you any idea how many have no idea of your suffering?
We know of the dreadful things Britain did to its convicts, truthfully it never stopped story's about floggings in adult prisons up to the 1970,s are well know.
But the idea of this thread was Aboriginal children the stolen generation, was it always evil?
After reading thoughts from elders from that community that said yes it was always evil .
And calling yet again in the cargo cult fashion for white to both say sorry and pay 3 billion dollars!
I said no! to the idea it was always wrong.
To the idea it will take cash to fix it.
And highlighted whites suffered too.
But start that thread or do you want me too?, air the problem but understand if we shout few will listen.

"I may be wrong,sorry if i am but that institution was for kids who committed crimes wasn't it."
Belly that was the bit i was responding to.Unfortunately most of the kids in the institutions you mentioned were transferred from other homes
for the sort of rule breaking i mentioned.Not because they were criminals.The general public was unaware of these circumstances and just told that the inmates were the worst offenders in that particular state.
I understand the subject is about the treatment of aboriginals and i'm not trying to sidetrack the issue.Huffnpuff has trouble with the computer and accidentally writes in capitals sometimes,as he has said on other discussions.I am actually part aboriginal but don't look it so i suppose i am qualified to speak about the stolen and the forgotten generation.Both these issues need to be addressed and from what i see and hear,they are both being given a lot of attention by the governments,state and federal.

Belly
Its hard to always get the balance right.
The fact Is the aboriginal people who were working lost their jobs through unions.

They then discovered grog and they could be found each day down on the rover banks drinking.
Most of the crimes against their own started then as well.
The two go hand in hand.
The fact is introducing them to grog WAS and IS our fault.

Get rid of the grog and you will be on the road to a long recovery.

I am sure the unions meant well by insisting aborigal people were paid equal.
Its just like so many other things Belly
In hindsight.

Oh and Belly as I shared with you before I am part aboriginal with a very good knowledge of several familes history.
My point was- many many kids were educated and loved their foster parents.
I grant you others were mis treated but I must stress to you to apoligise and call it an evil act is a insult to the people who did the right thing.

Morgan I dont give two hoots about your opinions actually.

Your rude and personally aggresive to anybody posting from pale be it aboriginal or Muslim or Migrants.
Normally I dont read your posts anymore because your always personally atacking somebody if not us.


You pick on some of our new Austrailans spelling- You make silly childish comments without posting one ounce of proof.

I think I have a right to speak up for the love between my past family and many of the people who took them in and gave them an education and life.

I am sorry for children who were not cared for or abused.
Of course I am.
What type of personal wouldnt be?
However WE are not responsible for something that took place hundreds of years ago.
We are! reasonsible to finally do something about the grog

PS Belly
Cut the bull about wanting each person to post their real name.
A Nobody posts their real name here including you!
B When Taryn posted under Taryn you straight away refered to her as pale.

If you dont like the rules Graham set up then get on Roberts band wagon and cause as much trouble as you like.
After all thats what unions and unions leaders do isnt it!

Perhaps you could suggest to GY that everybody goes on strike until you get your way.
Mind you it wouldnt do much for his business would it?
Still whem has a blokes business ever been the first concern ha.
What a way to run a country.
God help this country in the years to come because we need wise leaders and we are heading for the greatest slump in Australias history.
It will be ok for a while because there is a lot of funs left to them
After that. After about six to ten years- Its going to be a great worry.

So the thread is lost again! not just the host posting as pale this time but it is lost and buried!
However pale you must confront the issue, do not drag RObert into our debate.
You throw fire bombs at me for not obeying forum rules?
Do you understand it is forum rules not to divert the thread?
Unions you say lost Aboriginals jobs?
Are you so uninformed? do you not understand those jobs had been slavery? and that they abandoned them? do you understand the great historic victory those people won?
Pale my manners may seem crude but in truth for this forums sake I have time and again forgotten my promise never to talk to you.
And YES even in your posts in this last 2 months you say openly others are posting as pale.
I see one personality in many who are pale members.
One set of blinkered views remote from reality.
LOOK please at the thread Sunday morning in the lodge.
See the contempt for forum rules.
The diversion of a thread into a bitchy fight.
In truth the pale car park is a never ending one, powered by your group.
Silly childlike near lies? references to Labor and China threads are thrown at me but I know of no link to my opinions of you.
Here is what I truly think of Pale.
A confusing group of females who seem intent on stopping the cruelty of live animal exports.
Often this seems mixed with some self interest, as some one within the group claims an interest in exporting meat to Muslim country's.
Some difficulty in knowing who is who, why?
Strange that as I have been taunted by this group into putting my full name here they hide even who is posting one day.
Then tell us someone other than pale is do it?
Constant confuseing claims I did not put my name out? can it be a lie? or another poster? how many use the pale name?
I am unable to believe animal welfare is in any way served by such an abusive group

HayGirl
Sorry about this. You should know right up front that Belly takes any comment about unions and history personally.
Geting back to your comments I just think its discusting the way some were treated.

I only ask people consider the counter argument by branding ALL foster parents as evil way back then because that would be a lie and a insult to the many that provised love education and a future.

It would also be a insult to the many aboriginal people who call their foster parents Mum and Dad and knew and loved no other.

Perhaps Haygirl you could request the State Governments open a registery .
Or it could be done privately if people didnt want the Government involved or trust them.

Once that was established perhaps there could be a apology to those particular ones who registered.
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Well Haygirl- Perhaps its not too late the seek some justice for the way in which yourself and many others were treated.

Why shouldnt you be compensated and the others.!
Providing we dont brand all the foster parents evil I cant see why we cant as I said- Take the abuse victims case on for compensation.

What do you think? We have some legal people that would be happy to advise for no cost to kick it off.

Belly
Really There There Settle down its Christmass time.
Nothing is lost old chap.
You just need to understand not to take comments so personally.
For goodness sake Forums are for comments.
If somebody posts history about ALP unions dont go your goose.
Its simply a comment and probably a fact.
Plenty of mistakes made by the Liberal and National Government in the past also.etc.

I mentioned Robert for the soul reason to remind you what happens when folks try to use OLO as a personal pay back sytem.

Please allow Haygirl to share her knowledge and experiences.
I am certainly interested.

From all of us at pale- Around tweleve hundred Belly
Merry Christmass- We look forward to speaking to Mr Rudd about common decency towards our Australian Animals.