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Removing Aboriginal Children Evil?

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Its the grog. Remove ALL Grog
They have had heaps of money.
Also his info ISNT uninformed.
No need to be so rude.
Posted by TarynW, Thursday, 20 December 2007 1:43:23 AM
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Grog is a symptom not a reason, Frank Gol has his rights too.
Our failure to bring equality can not be blamed on Grog, even on not trying.
Sometimes like the stolen generation we tried the wrong things.
While many openly dislike my stand it is based on one fact, we must not let it be another 100 years before we fix it.
My use of the word evil in the thread?
It came from Aboriginal elders in front page news story on that day.
Saying the stolen generation was always EVIL? it clearly was not.
One day in the future maybe in 100 years well educated Aboriginals will re write history of their people, hopefully not an invented history.
Last night on ABC television I saw one who cares, of New Zealand Maori ancestry he was told to say he was Aboriginal to work at Arakun!
How low an act? who can not ask why the QLD government would do that?
If it was Mississippi we would scream racism but we ignore the fact it is.
And if we forget the lack of accountability of some Aboriginals and the near cargo cult quest for white mans money we hide the truth.
Build those homes hospitals schools shops and service centers give jobs but not ever cash.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:48:41 AM
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No matter what the motives were, to sieze children and lie to them that their parents had abandoned them or were dead is just not right.

For every feel-good story that gets rolled out as an example of those things, there are many more that are shameful and morally perverse.

The intention may have been at worst, questionable - but the methods used were deliberate.

Maybe evil is not a strong enough word in some circumstances.

Read the report.
Posted by rache, Thursday, 20 December 2007 7:47:48 AM
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I have read the report, the thread asks was it always evil?
My point is it often was and just as often it was not.
Telling kids the parent no longer wanted them could be out of the history of forced migration of British children post ww2.
Was that wrong too?
Is cash the only payment for what even you say is questionable?
Are we being honest applying todays standards to yesterdays actions?
Spend 3 billion dollars if that is what it takes.
But in 20 or 30 years let us see educated people who while understanding their own culture fit in with white Australians not living as second class people with out hope or effort in fact to live a better life.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 20 December 2007 3:21:19 PM
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Belly
The aboriginal people themselves acknowledge it IS the grog!
No idea how we can control it now.
Anyway I am not going to argue the facts with you.
Evil?
To be evil it must have been intended to be so.
That is not the case.
I know a aboriginal lady who loves her foster parents to this day!
I dont think she would appreciate them being called evil!
There are many success cases as well

While I am personally sorry that some were displaced I am no more reasonsible for what was thought to be the best action a hundred years ago then you are Belly.

The only reason people are pushing for that is for billions of dollars to be awared them.

Now- Thats ok I guess BUT only IF the money is put to good.

In the past they have blown money given them because they CANT manage their own affairs!
Thats been because of grog.
Both the Government AND the aborginal leaders acknowledge that GROG is the number one two and three problem
Then comes jobs training education DRs not in that order.
Posted by TarynW, Friday, 21 December 2007 6:30:26 AM
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We agree at least on some points Taryn money must be spent not given and some did not suffer by the removal.
It however was not a 100 years ago, some of it was as late as 1960.
Grog in my view is a symptom not the problem.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 21 December 2007 3:27:10 PM
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