huffnpuff - I have no doubt that you are owed an apology for your treatment while in the supposed care of the State, but that is a different issue to what I was talking about. I said that Australia's Indigenous people are owed a formal apology by the Australian government for the wholesale destruction of their society and way of life, and the expropriation of the lands upon which the Australian nation is literally built.

PALEIF - where did I say that anybody is "evil"? I merely pointed out one aspect of your ignorance of traditional Aboriginal societies, to which you had drawn attention via your appalling suggestion that gang rapes of children had been observed by settlers.

I note that you still haven't provided a shred of evidence for that claim. No doubt you'll continue to obfuscate hysterically, but it doesn't make your comments any less ignorant or offensive.

Huffnpuff is indeed a different story than the stolen generation.
But the story is not a single one.
It has always been true sadists find jobs in such places and white wash is easier than action.
I may be wrong, sorry if I am but that institution was for kids who committed crimes wasn't it?
Along with Tamworth it was known as a hard place, investigations uncovered much to be ashamed of.
Pale, who am I talking to? this thread has seen a few from that group, strange that we need to ask.
You in your anti union rant, it is TarynW isn't it? highlight a thing of great pride.
Do you understand you speak of the event that saw a former ALP Prime Minister enter our history?
Those slaves! no other words are honest!walked to that river bank and won a great victory,
the song about it runs in my head now, did you think you would shame me?
Proudly I claim it as a victory not for unions but the people who fought it and my ALP.
Now a question if you find this proud story something I should be ashamed of do you understand ANYTHING about Aboriginal issues?
Have a great Christmas every one yes those posting as pale you too have a quite beer and consider a gift for me.
Not much just please think about letting us know who we are taking to in each post.

Foxy: "Best Wishes for the Festive Season and the coming year..."

Sorry, I missed that somehow... same back at you.

I'll wish for your good health as well :)

MERRY XMASS FORGOTTEN AUSTALIANS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AND TO THOSE OF US WHO ARE NO LONGER WITH US GOD BLESS LET THERE BE JUSTICE FOR THE FORGOTTEN AUSTALIANS REGARDS MICHEAL AND TO ALL OTHER PEOPLE OUT THEIR EXCEPT THE SICK _UCKERS THAT COME INTO THE SITE WHO WILL GET THEIR DAY WHEN CAUGHT BYE ALL

Huffnpuff you do you understand, do your mission no good with such posts.
I have some understanding of your pain and the wrongs you have faced.
You understand not too many Aussies would not be sympathetic to your story, few do not understand it truly happened.
If you present your case to ministers as badly as you do here sometimes do not expect results.
Standing on a street corner shouting never works, you seem intent on posting in caps and insulting those who do not want to side track other issues.
Other post here who support your claims, yet you do not use your chance to speak in terms that highlight your story, screaming at the world is not ever going to work.
As a whistle blower, yes me! I can tell you no one will listen, if you just ask them too.
Hanging on my wall are state government awards for leadership, one of no more than ten given to my group statewide.
They meant nothing under both conservative and ALP governments once I tried to tell my story of theft and crime in my department.
Calmly write your story give it to the opposition, the press, every Medea outlet you can find.
First read it again and again is it put the way you wanted?
Give it to the Church's never give in but be clear anger will not sell your side of the horrors you have seen, just maybe you must understand throwing rocks is hurting your case.
Even I an activist for such as you find it hard to ignore your heat and you need to think about that.

Belly,most of the kids in the reform schools did not commit crimes.We were charged with neglect or exposed to moral danger.We were charged,not our parents or the ones who neglected us.We were charged,not the ones who raped and bashed us until we could stand it no longer.Sure we sometimes stole food or clothes to survive whilst on the streets.Sure we slept with people to get a roof over our heads.We were not criminals,just kids trying to survive.There is a gross public misconception about the children who were in those homes.If you broke the rules in those places,you were then sent to a maximum security juvenile detention center.Rules like not shaving your legs or plucking your eyebrows,rules like wearing your socks at knee level.I spent 24weeks in Hay maximum security for altering a tattoo on my arm.Not for hurting anyone or breaking the law or stealing but for tattoing my own body.Google HAY girls institution,read what happened there and judge for yourself if the punishments fitted the crime.We were not criminals just young kids looking for a way out of the often intolerable situation we were living in.Quite a few of us were dumped at the gates of welfare homes,never to see or hear from any natural relatives again.Imagine the horror of being in that situation as a four or five year old. Imagine having your body invaded by the so called carers.