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Midas McGauran and his Mixed Grill of Misery
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Posted by dickie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 4:43:27 PM
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Additional URL on the truth behind the avaricious live animal export industry and its impact on jobs for Australians in Australia!:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:T6Ptb9eVAIoJ:www.pacat.org/facts.htm+sheep+export+farms+how+many+numbers+australia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au&lr=lang_en http://www.liveexport-indefensible.com/investigations/photos.php . http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:sz0e41mclaMJ:sweetness-light.com/archive/the-eid-festival-around-the-world-graphic-photos+animal+torture+muslim+festivals&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au&lr=lang_en Posted by dickie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 5:53:00 PM
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Spiders eh Dickie? Your venom is showing! I remind you that male
spiders are usually fairly harmless, quite content with a bit of food and sex. Its the females that are usually the nasty ones! :) You clearly wern't around long enough in the business world, to understand the importance of Emotional Intelligence. Daniel Goleman made it common knowledge and its now a fairly standard part of good business practise. It also helps the emotionally engulfed, become emotionally aware. Wearing one's heart on one's sleeve, commonly leads to disaster after distaster in life, as many have found out the hard way. If you get time, read Goleman's book. If the extremist end of the veggie movement really cared about animals, they would assist farmers to change and improve things in the Middle East, not discrimate against some animals from some countries. Organisations like animal liberation, are far keener to shut farmers and farming down, one would have to assume after reading their website. You have commented enough about your opinion of farmers, farming and meat consumption. Given that only a tiny % of the population agree with you, clearly your opinions are extremist! Its seems thats what you would love Dickie. Close down the live trade and let those evil farmers go broke, for they would have no option but to shoot the livestock. Sorry Dickie, that's not exactly what I call caring and compassionate. Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 18 October 2007 8:06:09 PM
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Israel and Jordan
Yossi Wolfson Yossi Wolfson is an Israeli Attorney. He has met shipments of Australian animals arriving in Aqaba through Jordan and into Israel and documented the journey and conditions animals endure during transport and slaughter. Following is his graphic account of the slaughter of cattle in an Israeli abbatoir: "The animal must be fully conscious when the throat is cut. The process is long. The animal is pulled into a restraining box where its legs are shackled. Then, pulled by the shackles, it is thrown on its back and its legs and body pulled upwards. The animal's screams as it lies suspended by the legs on its back gives some idea of their absolute fear. This shackling process can take many minutes. The abattoir's workers arrange the screaming animal for the slaughter man - pouring water on the neck and into the mouth. They straighten the shackles, restraining the head. The sharp cut that comes then is not the end of it. The animal continues to struggle and gasp for air for some time while the blood is pouring and the body is dragged upwards and moved to be processed. At the same time another animal is already watching the scene from the restraining box." Yossi Wolfson describes the transfer of animals from truck to truck at the border crossing between Jordan and Israel. "Plastic pipes are use to beat the animals. No ramps are used. Animals are forced to jump from truck to truck or run over a gap. Legs that get caught in the gap or between the rails are a common sight. Sheep are picked up by their horns, ears or fleece, or are physically thrown from truck to truck. The lucky ones will go from here into quarantine, where (after another brutal unloading) they will finally be watered. Animals can go without water for days during transport. Others will stay the whole day and night on the trucks to be transported to the Palestinian Authority. contd........ Posted by dickie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 9:54:30 PM
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Israel and Jordan - Yossi Wolfson contd......
"There they will experience another unloading (again – no ramps available) and another loading to their final destination. It is no coincidence that so many animals die. The death and suffering are shocking even for people who earn their living from the industry. It was a driver who led us to see and photograph four Australian calves thrown away at the quarantine. Three were obviously dead and the fourth wasn't moving. But there was blood in his nose, and the blood was bubbling, hinting breath. Euthanasia is clearly not practiced here: the calf was just left to die. And when the people in charge saw us taking pictures we had to run for our lives." I trust Yossi Wolfson's account made the earth move for you, Yabby. Don't bother responding - you never have. You will of course endeavour to distract the reader by more of your inane sophistry. Your perverse and grotesque delusions and condonation of this inherently evil trade, which tortures the brief lives of animals, for a convenient and lucrative meal ticket, is well known. "Given that only a tiny % of the population agree with you,clearly your opinions are extremist!" Take your hand off it Yabby. Your crusade for cruelty is finite. There are millions of protestors around the world where numbers are expanding rapidly and it is you who will be regarded as the extremist! Yes indeed....there is much work to be done. http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:T6Ptb9eVAIoJ:www.pacat.org/facts.htm+sheep+export+farms+how+many+numbers+australia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au&lr=lang_en http://www.liveexport-indefensible.com/investigations/photos.php . http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:sz0e41mclaMJ:sweetness-light.com/archive/the-eid-festival-around-the-world-graphic-photos+animal+torture+muslim+festivals&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au&lr=lang_e Posted by dickie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 10:23:35 PM
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http://www.shechitauk.org/downloads/A_Guide_to%20Shechita_July_2004.pdf
So let me read about animal welfare under Jewish Law. "Jewish Law requires that animals be treated with consideration, kindness and respect. These laws are binding to Jews today" Somehow by magic, the veggie brigade seem to think that if they can bankrupt Australian farmers, people in the Middle East will miraculously become vegetarians. Think again! As Scott Hanson notes in this week's Farm Weekly, Australia is the only country working in the Middle East to improve animal welfare standards. But rather then assist Australian farmers in this mission, veggies prefer not to bother with changing things in the Middle East, or pointing out what religious laws require. Out of sight, seems to be out of mind, for the veggie brigade! Shame on you for deserting Middle Eastern animals! Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 18 October 2007 11:07:08 PM
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I'm unconcerned whether live experts include Merino sheep, cattle, goats or camels. The despair and misery of these animals is the same in any language. I'm primarily concerned with the lack of ethics and moral clarity which is seriously deficient in this rats' nest of inhumanity.
I remain grateful to PALE who has performed extensive research into this industry of disgrace - information invaluable in confirming that the spivs that crawl around the edges of politics have forfeited any rights in protesting against fair-minded people's objections to the crimes against these animals.
Fifty years in senior positions in private industry, has also taught me how political parties are captured by influential though unethical industries which constantly lobby for special favours in the name of fiscal health and the subsequent pork barrelling which continues to flourish.
Excerpt published online: 20 March 2007
Abstract "We examine crime that emerges from the global restructuring of agriculture and food systems by employing the case of the Australian “Ship of Death,” whereby nearly 58,000 sheep were stranded at sea for almost 3 months in 2003, violating the Western Australia Animal Welfare Act of 2002.
"This case demonstrates that the acceleration of transnational trade networks, in the context of agri-food globalization, victimizes animals and constitutes a crime.
"Herein, we examine this case in depth and show how economic restructuring, driven by a “logic of capital” orientation, can exert pressure on the state causing it to fail to enforce its own regulations and in this way engage in criminal actions."
Globalization - MV Cormo Express - State crime
Authors, Wynne Wright is an Assistant Professor at Michigan State University specializing in agri-food systems and political sociology and Stephen Muzzatti is Vice-Chair of the American Society of Criminology’s Division on Critical Criminology.
And these criminals continue to engage in "criminal action!"
"I tend to separate emotion from reason, something which you
seem unable to do, as you wear your heart on your sleeve" says Yabby
Like you, Yabby, cold-blooded, funnel web spiders are devoid of emotion too and also extremely adept at preying on the defenceless.