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Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 23 June 2025 12:49:28 PM
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«You make out like the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong, but Israel has (past and present) killed far more Palestinians than Palestinians killed Israelis.» Why can't BOTH be in the wrong? While Israel's government can be very cunning, the "Palestinian" leaders are plain foolish - either that or masochistic. Their blind emotionally-uncontrolled reactions brought their people so much misery... but maybe that's just what they wanted... «I don't support regime changes. who the hell is a foreign government to decide who rules a foreign soverign country?» And who the hell are those tyrant Ayatollahs who dictate the Iranian people what to wear and how to live, torturing those who oppose them? And I didn't even ask you to support regime-change, only asked why you oppose it... rather than the Ayatollahs' cleric dictatorship. «If Yahya Sinwar was still alive and I proposed to put him in charge of all of occupied Palestine, would you be ok with that?» It may be a hard choice between him and Netanyahu, but Netanyahu has so far kept my family alive, while Sinwar, I think, would kill them all within a week. «I don't care about trying to re-organise the M/E in a manner suitable to Zionist or Western interests.» Neither do I, but I do care about the poor oppressed Persian people! «Israel is the cause of instability in the region, and their wars are the cause of Muslim immigration to all our western nations.» Do read the history of the Middle-East and check whether at any historical period wars were less frequent that earthquakes in Japan. We are fortunate to live in peace here, but I don't believe that we have some divine exclusive right do deny the same from others. «No, but are you keen on Israels own religious sycophants, and western neoconsevatives, Zionists and Christian Zionists bringing about Greater Israel and Noahide law for all of us?» You know I don't. «(but I do like girls in bikinis)» But you won't be overjoyed when Iranian women can wear them again? «Israel-is-the-one-who-engineered-Sunni-Muslims-with-women-in-burka's-and-head-choppers-to-take-over-Syria,-this-is-ok?» Sorry, no idea what you're talking about. Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 23 June 2025 12:49:35 PM
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Hi mhaze,
Maybe if you watched the video you wouldn't be so dense. "No one saw it AC. They might be telling you after the fact that they saw it, and you, as usual, will fall for it but you won't find anyone who was calling it before the actual attack." http://www.youtube.com/live/zPxluKP1gaU?t=208 Transcript "I just want to pull up the um the Blackstone assessment I had done earlier the strike assessment,I want to see how close I got to this all right so here here's what I published earlier... So what I had mentioned was that this: was not some global rotation that what I had been following was the movement of B2 uh stealth bombers out of Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri moving toward the Pacific uh looked like they were going to head out to Anderson Air Force Base in Guam possibly hop over to Diego Garcia but that wasn't going to be necessary because they've moved over this previous week I had reported on the movement of some of these stratotankers that basically air force refueling planes getting them in place so that the B2s would not necessarily have to go to Diego Garcia they could just go in and refuel in the air when these when these B2s take off because they're carrying massive ordinance the bunkerbusters right the massive ordinance penetrators these things are 30,000 pounds each so at takeoff you are not going to be able to have the full amount of fuel that you want you have to compensate by reducing fuel at takeoff so when I the reason I knew or one of the main reasons I knew that this is all going down is when..." Ahem... aren't you sick of me making you look stupid all these years? Not my fault your paid sources are rubbish and you think you know something, when you don't. I even added the timestamp to the link this time so you can follow along. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 23 June 2025 2:09:29 PM
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"Israeli settlers killed 1000 Palestinians in the year prior to Oct 7."
AC just makes these numbers up out of thin air to try to justify his wacky views and then expresses outrage at fictitious deaths. "According to available data, six Palestinians were killed by Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank in 2022. This figure is cited in a Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor report". "Amnesty International and OCHA (United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs) reported six Palestinians killed by settlers in the first nine months of 2023." Six to nine killed by settlers as per various NGOs or 1000 killed as per AC's fantasies. Which to believe? Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 June 2025 2:26:02 PM
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Well AC we see that you struggle to understand simple facts again.
Your quote from your source, for want of a better word, doesn't in the slightest confirm what you think it confirms. Its talking about the the B-2s flying out over the Pacific and headed for Guam and Deigo Garcia etc. And there were planes that did head that way. But, and see if you can follow this, they were a decoy. They weren't the planes that took out the nuclear sites. They were a decoy. The actual planes that did the attack headed west over the Atlantic. So the ones that you thought your sources were so clever at detecting were SUPPOSED to be detected. They were a decoy and the US took no measures to hide them. Its pretty funny that the decoys were meant to fool the Iranians but also fooled people like your sources (for want of a better word) and people like yourself who think they understand all while in reality being utterly clueless. The ones that were the actual attackers were hidden and weren't observed by your 'source' (for want of a better word). Therefore your claims that your sources saw it and therefore Iran saw it, are just plain wrong and not a little dumb. Have I lost you yet. So back to my main point which is clearly going to go over your head. You asserted that the US equipment was outdated and useless, but we now see that , when used by competent leadership, they are very much not outdated and are capable of pulling off an astonishing feat of arms. And it is that fact that will have the boffins in Moscow and Peking pondering the implications for their own aggressive tendencies. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 June 2025 2:43:38 PM
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Australia is no longer a credible ally of the US. There is no reason for Donald Trump to allow Albanese anywhere near him, let alone talk to him. Australia, like Spain, Brazil and South Korea are the only medium size nations not to have had a face-to-face with Donald Trump. Even Mexico scored a Zoom meeting with him after he returned to Washington. Trump wasn't too busy for that.
Trump is well aware that Australia is mismanaged by noisy politicians who don't see any need for the Australia/US alliance and, also, that these yobbos despise him personally. Just the insult of leaving Rudd in America is enough to put Trump right off on its own. The bizarre Wonganese commentary on Israel and Iran is as good as asking Trump to ignore Australia as a land of idiots. They are still jabbering about a ‘two state’ solution in the ME, when Israel's enemies want it wiped out: no Israeli ‘state’ at all. With no Opposition to speak of, and a naive electorate, we are steadily getting closer to something very nasty happening in this country. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 June 2025 3:37:08 PM
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«Limassol, Larnaca, Nicosia...»
Well my family has not gotten that desperate and still believe that they can survive in Israel. Yes, the Iranian attacks are devastating, over a 1000 Israelis wounded in their homes and shelters, around 10,000 homeless - but hey, out of 10 millions that is only 0.1% while leaving is 100% loss, so my family takes that chance. If they ever leave, that would be because of Netanyahu and his ilk, not because of outside attacks.
«War with Iran is a long planned US policy.»
Maybe, maybe not, I am not an expert on these things, but what has my family got to do with it? They did not initiate this or any other war!
«Israeli settlers killed 1000 Palestinians in the year prior to Oct 7.»
Fair enough - then bomb them to dust, but my family are not Israeli settlers, so why should they suffer? Almost none of those murdered or hijacked on October 7th was a settler: the vast majority were peace-loving Kibbutz members and hippy-like music-lovers who absolutely abhor those fanatic settlers.
«Do they not love their kids too, do Israeli leaders not boast of killing the kids»
Sure, then target those Israeli leaders - my family did not kill any kids, nor boasts such atrocities.
«Did Israel not give them cause to react?»
But not a good cause. Every fool can find causes, but it hurt themselves most.
«If you want terrorists a surefire way to make create them is kill their entire families, and that's something Israel is quite proficient at.»
And Netanyahu just loves it: it was foolish Arab terrorists who brought him to power and the more terrorists around, the longer he stays in power.
«Reap what you sowed.»
My family has not sowed anything to deserve this in their present life.
But you are correct, perhaps they were German Nazis, Pol Pot soldiers, KGB agents or the like in their previous life, or perhaps members of the Spanish Inquisition, or perhaps they just murdered their relatives with mushrooms, who knows - divine justice cannot fail.
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