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Hi Fester,
From your earlier comment to me.

"You support the Russian invasion of Ukraine on the basis that Ukraine is using its military capability to harm Russia and ethnic Russians, and so Russia is justified in demilitarising Ukraine. But is that any different from Israel's justification for attacking Iran? Would the Palestinians be so well armed were it not for the military assistance from Iran?"

I actually didn't think Russia would invade, but my mindset has always been against sanctions (collective punishment) and regime changes.
It became apparent that it was a conflict by the West against Russia using a regime changed Ukraine (Maidan-2014) as it's proxy.

Regards M/E, I knew about the neoconservatives / Zionists war plans to overthrow 7 countries in 5 years, and so I've always been against this.
Netanyahu's wars have filled western countries with Muslims as a result.
- And I see this as an attack against our own countries, of sorts.
Even though the enemy seems to be our own western governments, however some might argue we needed population growth to sustain us economically.

"On the Ukrainian war, when do you think that infantry will be provisioned with anti-drone munitions like drone effective shotgun shells or proximity fragmenting shells? I'd imagine that there would be lots of research taking place and that Nato and American armour will have anti-drone systems soon if they don't have them currently."

I don't really have an answer to your questions, sorry.
But I saw a video of a Russian on the back of some armored vehicle taking down a drone with his rifle a few days back, it was either a really good, or lucky shot.

Advancements in drone capabilities are happening all the time, each time one side gets a leg up on the other, its not long before the other side brings the new capabilities to their own drones.

Take optic fiber cables (cant be brought down by jamming)
And drone nets protecting supply lines as examples.
Both sides are now using these methods.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 June 2025 9:49:17 PM
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Hi AC,

From what I've read it looks as if shot guns are very effective for infantry. There is lots of research into effective shell and weapon design. There are also plenty of weapons using proximity shells, but I'd imagine that they would be for automatic systems protecting armoured vehicles.

https://www.espritdecorps.ca/feature/shotguns-versus-drones-new-methods-to-deal-with-small-uavs
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 22 June 2025 11:01:53 PM
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Albanese. Silent on US action against Iran. Midnight Hammer is described as his worst nightmare. Peace doesn’t come from “listening circles and UNESCO brochures”. Bunker busting does the trick. All the “dialogue” and “constraint” is just so much crap.

God save Australia from Albanese, because the voters won't
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 June 2025 8:17:08 AM
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Boring as batsh.t though he is, and still thinking that the Liberal Party can be saved, Tony Abbott has tweeted the truth about Israel: “Israel is doing the world’s work in trying to destroy forever the Iranian nuclear weapons program and it’s good that America has supported its ally.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 June 2025 8:55:12 AM
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Hi Indy,
"I don't think that those two are exactly Muslim friendly !"
It's not about being Muslim friendly, it's about strategic interests.
But in regards to being Muslim friendly both Russia and China contain significant Muslim populations, in Russia there's Chechens, and in China they have Uyghurs...

Hi Yuyutsu,
Limassol, Larnaca, Nicosia... yes I probably would, and with the parents too, knowing that big trouble was on the way.
- War with Iran is a long planned US policy.

"Would you allow your fields and orchards to die because there is no one the water and weed them?"
Sad but yes, one can become very attached to ones plants, feels like a significant cost, but they're not your real loved ones.

"Yes, why don't you tell them to stop launching rockets and murdering and kidnapping innocent civilians?"
Israeli settlers killed 1000 Palestinians in the year prior to Oct 7.
Do they not love their kids too, do Israeli leaders not boast of killing the kids because they will become Hamas?
Did Israel not give them cause to react?
If you want terrorists a surefire way to make create them is kill their entire families, and that's something Israel is quite proficient at.
- Reap what you sowed.

"They could have been prosperous otherwise, they could have had their own independent state too if they wanted, long long ago, and they could have a life, if only their main aim was not to take away other people's lives."
- You make out like the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong, but Israel has (past and present) killed far more Palestinians than Palestinians killed Israelis.

[Cont.]
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 23 June 2025 9:00:30 AM
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Penny Wong has now come out saying that the Australian Government fully supports the US taking out Iran's nukes.

It'll be interesting to see who is the most upset by this - ttbn or AC. I guess we'll see a competition between the two of them to see who can misunderstand the real world the most.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 June 2025 9:51:57 AM
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