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Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 June 2025 10:16:25 AM
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I would not want to see the Iranian regime with nuclear weapons.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 14 June 2025 1:04:33 PM
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If what George Christensen has claimed is true, nuclear weapons are not the issue. I believe what George says; anyone who doesn't could read the 170 page.
The US, Russia, France, China, UK, Pakistan, India, Israel and North Korea all have nuclear weapons. I would prefer that Russia, China, Pakistan and North Korea did not have them. And those countries would undoubtedly prefer that the US, the UK France and India didn’t have them Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 June 2025 2:32:23 PM
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It's nothing less than a battle for survival. It's either them or us !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 14 June 2025 7:39:20 PM
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It has been said for long enough and loud enough that the
Islamists Sunni and Shia both, that the long term aim has not changed, ie to destroy the west or as they put it at the time Destroy Rome ! You all saw if you take any notice of history, what happened to the Eastern Christian Empire at Constantinople in 1453. It led to the total Islamisation of the middle east and the conversion of Spain to Islam. That desire to reconquer Andalusia runs strong. They almost took Vienna, except the Polish army arrived in the nick of time. The aim is to change Europe into Eurabia, Not sure the Persians would like that but they would not argue about that. The Iranians are not Arabs. Their declared intention is to kill all Christians in Europe after they have killed all the Jews in the world and there is no Israel. Then they expect to kill all non moslems in the United States. They have said it loudly enough and what is more they mean it. History says they have been remarkably successful so far. Don't be as silly as Penny Wong and think Australia is exempt ! If you think this is far fetched, well they don't and they have Allah's word for it. Here endith the history lesson. Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 14 June 2025 11:38:04 PM
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Lol ttbn
Now you want to read the fecken policy papers? I've been telling you all about this stuff for years. [Rolls eyes] Now go look at Clean Break Policy paper http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf Now go look at Wesley Clarks 7 wars in 5 years http://youtu.be/x17KVOiiGfI?si=ka2xoRjB07jxMgTV Now go look at Wolfowitz Doctrine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine 2022.05.16 Why The Wolfowitz Doctrine Inevitably Leads To World War http://youtu.be/WA5ReEf3vtY Iran proved months ago the Iron dome can be penetrated. All they have to do is overwhelm the air defense with drones and decoys and the hypersonics go straight through, one hit Israels Defense HQ. Even the Houty send a single hypersonic and it penetrated. Our so called enemies know exactly how to overwhelf western air defense. US weapons are outdated and useless. 3 F-35s have been shot down. Iran has Israeli pilots in custody. Israel wants to blow up the entire region to complete what was started decades ago. Yes Iran can build a nuclear weapon in 2 weeks if it chooses but Khomeini issued a fatwa against doing so. Even Tulsi Gabbard US National Director of Intelligence said they have no intelligence of Iran developing nuclear weapons. The whole US congress is owned by the Israel lobby. Trump has pro-Israeli political donors. This Saddam Husseins WMD's all over again. I want to see what happens when western forces try to invade. I hope Iran blows the shite out of Israel. Yay! Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 15 June 2025 7:30:22 AM
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And everything is going as planned back in 2009.
Christensen blames the Brookings Institute, an organisation he describes as a “war-planning factory dressed up as a research centre”, which laid out how to get the US into a war with Iran without looking like the “bad guy”. It has the US encouraging and perhaps assisting Israel to make the strike, with retaliation from Iran and international criticism deflected away from the US.
Now, Trump has said that he didn’t want what happened, and preferred to talk to Iran, but “Someone didn't want peace. Someone wanted war”. Trump has urged Iran to deal and stop the conflict from escalating. Iran has accused America of being complicit in the attack. So much for the assumptions of the Brookings Institute.
Christensen says that the attack wasn't about Iran being a threat: it was about “keeping the war machine fed”.
(Based on the 170 page paper ‘Which path to Persia’, which I am happy that George read for me).
Irrespective of the whats and whys, and the killing of some unpleasant generals, it is always sickening to see what is happening, and knowing that ordinary civilians are being killed in any city, including Tehran.