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Hi AC,

Trump's decision to bomb Iranian uranium enrichment facilities contrasts with his tolerance of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Do you think that the contrast may be in part because Russia's nuclear capability is not for sale to terrorist states like Iran?

Note that most nuclear reactors used 5% enrichment, Gates' Natrium reactor will use about 20% enrichment, and subs use about 30% enrichment. The Iranians were enriching to about 60% U235. Does that strike you as peaceful intent?
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 22 June 2025 7:53:35 PM
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Hi Fester,
Well, they can't win in Ukraine, all they can do is enough to slow down the inevitable, and to be honest with you I don't think the war in Ukraine will end until Russian troops march into Kiev.

In the meantime, attacking Russia's allies has the potential to overstretch Russia, if they have to provide air defense and other capabilities. Iran is also an important BRICS partner, and so it's attacking the challenge to the US dollars hegemony, also Iran provides oil to China, so it's also an attempt to slow down China's rise to become a leading world power.

I'm not sure if the nuclear issue is legitimate, or just a ruse to go about a regime change in Iran which could be their goal, and has been a policy of the US / Israel for 30+ years.
- Dreams of the neoconservatives / Zionists.

Regards 60% enrichment, google 'Non proliferation treaty 60% limit'
It may be that 60% does not specifically break the Nuclear NPT, and so is a breach of international law and an attack on a sovereign state.

Trump did not launch these strikes without asking what will happen,
i.e how will Iran respond, I'm not sure how much naval assets are in Bahrain, but no doubt Iran will attack US military bases in the region, even after Trump has issued demands.
(The Iranian 'regime' has to respond)
Trump who hates being challenged and has surrounded himself with Zionist bootlickers will thump his chest, and at this point even the MAGA crowd who are not Pro-Israel and are against this war (MAGA is split right now) will go along with strikes on Tehran when Americans come home in coffins, and we will end up with a full blown regional war.

And this has always been a policy objective by neoconservatives / Zionists, and Netanyahu.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 June 2025 8:47:08 PM
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Hi Indy,
I don't think the US has the capabilities to send troops into Iran, look at Ukraine for example, Russia has been going at it on flat terrain for 3 years with everything they have.
Iran's territory is bigger than Ukraine, it's not flat terrain like Iraq or Ukraine, but mountainous, and the US didn't really win in Iraq, they were made to pay a heavy price with attacks by insurgents.
I don't think the US can invade Iran and win, and there's no telling whether or not Russia or China would come to Iran's aid.
I'm not sure about their military treaties, (Russia, China, Iran) they might all have defensive treaties with each other.
I'm not sure the US has the manpower or enough stockpiled weapons to sustain such a conflict in Iran, and also take into account that because the US engaged in a ruse to allow an attack by Israel while Iran was lead to believe they their still negotiating, Iranians will support their regime and fight the invaders to the death.

I think the whole thing will backfire.
Israel will get pummeled, and the US will back away from a full blown conflict involving boots on the ground.
Trump will claim victory and back away, just as he did with the Houty, without actually achieving anything.
Meanwhile Iran may look at North Korea (who has a Russian Topol M and ability to attack US mainland if it chooses) and say, we have a fatwa against nuclear weapons, but the only way we can prevent an invasion which the Zionist occupied US and Israel seem intent on is to actually possess the nuclear weapons as a deterrent.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 June 2025 9:00:16 PM
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http://x.com/AryJeay/status/1936723678663692515

Iranian Foreign Minister:

• Everyone should know that we pursued diplomacy, but the US and the Zionist regime launched aggressive attacks on Iran and its people, and we will use all our capabilities to defend ourselves.

• It’s illogical to demand from Iran return to diplomacy

• I don't know how much room remains for diplomacy after our nuclear facilities were bombed by the US & Israel.

• The US is not diplomatic and only understands the language of force and threats. They have shown that they do not respect the international charter and international law and do not adhere to any of them.

• NPT has failed to protect us.

• I will head to Moscow to meet with Putin. Russia is a friend of Iran and we have a strategic partnership with it [likely to discuss Iran-Russia relations if/when Iran leaves NPT.]
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 June 2025 9:25:49 PM
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no telling whether or not Russia or China would come to Iran's aid.
Armchair Critic,
I don't think that those two are exactly Muslim friendly ! This is not an attack, this is the beginning of fighting back & a retaliation of what Islam has done & wants to continue to do to the World.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 22 June 2025 9:33:59 PM
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Dear Critic,

«What Israel did was allow the war to happen, if not make it happen.»

I hypothesise that Netanyahu personally initiated October 7th, but not Israel as such because nobody else would have been privy to his traitorous secret.

Either way, the rest of Israel had no choice, initially, but later on there was a choice to stop and Israel's government chose to continue the war, thereby killing that many more Israelis and prolonging the torture of the hostages.

«Maybe your family should've just left and saved themselves.»

Would you be so cruel to take your grandchildren out of kindi, away from their friends, their teachers and playgrounds, to wonder instead aimlessly in the streets of Limassol? Would you take your elderly parents out of nursing home and throw them on some plane or boat out in the cold in a foreign land, or would you just leave them there never to visit again? Would you allow your fields and orchards to die because there is no one the water and weed them?

«Tell that to the Palestinians whose entire existence is this.»

Yes, why don't you tell them to stop launching rockets and murdering and kidnapping innocent civilians?

They could have been prosperous otherwise, they could have had their own independent state too if they wanted, long long ago, and they could have a life, if only their main aim was not to take away other people's lives.

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I cannot understand why are you so opposed to a regime change in Iran:
Are you in love with Khamenei and his Ayatollahs?
Are you keen on bringing the Mahdi, the Twelfth Imam back to this world to force Islam on us all?
Or are you simply outraged by the prospect of Iranian women not covering their hair, perhaps even wearing bikinis, Allah forbid?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 22 June 2025 9:46:14 PM
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