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Sacked nurses a step too far in terms of free speech and comment

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Hi Rhian,

My parents were friends with a couple who were children during the second world war in Germany. The guy suffered terrible trauma from the experience. I was a kid at the time, oblivious to what he had gone through, just as Nathan is oblivious to the implications of his plan for auditing. The poor fellow lived his life in fear, always keeping himself fit and alert so that he could make a run for it if they came for him, which he thought could happen at any time. He would go to a shopping centre and believed that the security guards were part of a surveillance detail to keep an eye on him. The terror eventually became too much for him and he took his own life.

Auschwitz was a prison for people who failed the audit. The Nazis believed that Jews had inherent character flaws which meant that they could never be a part of Hitler's great empire.

I think that health workers set a good example, not caring who you are or what you think, and offering only compassion and care to the best of their ability.

I think of civilisation as a garden. It can be magnificent in its diversity and balance. With Nathan's Gestapo audits it could become rows of cabbages.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 23 February 2025 7:53:31 AM
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I heard a different story not so long back Fester.
It intrigues me as to the truth of it, and I wonder if any of the answers lie in Mein Kamf, which I've never read.

The question is this:

Were Hitlers motives against the Jews in part because of what he saw them responsible for doing in Russia, and did he move to ensure they would not do the same to the German people.
(That is, if he didn't already see them doing similar things)
I also heard Hitlers book burnings, were actually literature that promoted transgenderism, not sure the truth of it.

I watched this documentary a while back.
When Hitler invaded France, the fist thing he went after was the Freemasonry lodges.

Nazis vs. Freemasons - Looting of the Lodges
http://youtu.be/0Gq_xmEoxG8

In the video you'll see that the 'Pyramid with the eye' on US currency is actually a symbol relating to freemasonry.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 23 February 2025 11:01:36 AM
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Rhian,

<<In an October forum on....you posted...>>

I wouldn't cut and paste from other discussion topics here as they were written in a different space, have different context and with different reasonings behind them, so it's not an overly healthy thing to do in that regard.

With discussion topics here sometimes complex ones also, it adds little value to a discussion topic either.

It's like me posting the following, adding it here and expecting it to resonate, make sense or mean something. It won't or doesn't.

<< Hi Paul

The Parliamentary Budget Office puts the cost at $250 million. Looking at the differences in assumptions that underpin the two estimates, the PBO’s look more realistic to me:

https//www.afr.com/politics/federal/treasury-claims-liberals-long-lunch-tax-break-will-cost-billions-20250203-p5l916#:~:text=Treasury%20estimates%20a%20%241.6%20billion,the%20full%20%2420%2C000%20a%20year.

It’s still not a great policy, but it will hardly “smash the budget” as Jim Chalmers says.

Posted by Rhian, Friday, 7 February 2025 4:18:31 PM>>

We had some people here in previous times who would copy and paste from other discussions and then say in essence this was your view from.... I never fully understood what they were trying to achieve.
Posted by NathanJ, Sunday, 23 February 2025 11:11:17 AM
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Dear Critic,

«Starting to think you're affected by the same rhetoric Israels leaders have spouted for decades, Palestinians are animals, Amelekites, worthy only of extermination.»

Fester just remarked: "treating one's thoughts in the same manner would be the foundation of an Orwellian Hell. Our private thoughts are our own business. We do not need Nathan's Gestapo."

I agree with Fester. I am not your psychologist either.

«What are Israeli hostages lives worth more than innocent Palestinian lives?»

For me they are, for you obviously not.
Whatever be their ethnic/religious orientation.
And it is not only about their lives - in the horrific conditions they are being held, killing them outright would be a mercy.
It could have been any of my family,
it could even been myself while visiting them.

Besides, while the Israeli hostages are 100% innocent (which you failed to note), only some of the "Palestinians" are.

One INNOCENT "Palestinian" released yesterday was the hostage Hisham Al-Sayed http://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-843269
I am thankful to Allah for his release.

I am not on the side of the state of Israel (or any other state for that matter) or the ideology of its regime - I am on the side of the hostages. Period.
I do not wish any so-called "Palestinian" dead, I wish them all well, I want them to live and prosper in freedom and dignity, I am disgusted by the conditions in which they are held in Israeli prisons (at Ben-Gvir's instructions, may he himself soon become a hostage in Gaza's deep tunnels, wounded, untreated, caged in chains and starving for food, water, sunlight and air), but should all so-called "Palestinians" need to die in order to save just one of the innocent Israeli hostages, then while I would be sad for them, so be it.

[continued...]
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 23 February 2025 11:34:13 AM
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[...continued]

«Half of Israel openly wants them all dead, the other half only want them all gone.»

BECAUSE of the hostages they took, because of their murder and rape of innocent people, also because of the rockets and fire-bombs they send over Israel - why else?

And still there is a great difference between the private thoughts of the latter half and the active actions of the former.
Would you feel any different if you had such neighbours?
Now if Australia had such neighbours, I wonder which half would you count yourself in?

«Don't worry about their families feelings because Israel routinely assassinates the entire family.»

Just more social-media rubbish.
Yes, Israel kills, sometimes more than necessary, it could be reckless but has no policy of assassinating families.
We know who murdered the Bibas family in captivity,
and many other innocent families in their own Kibbutz homes.

«On the other side, Israelis celebrate the carnage in Gaza.
Stop being precious.»

There are some bastards who do.
My family does not.
And why should I stop being precious - I love my family and so would you if you had any there, or had your family in Australia been attacked or threatened in a similar manner!

I will not read further down your post due to those filthy references to social media - I am not a masochist!

So on to your reply to Fester (since my name is mentioned in it):

«Israel Drops GENOCIDAL Leaflets On Gaza»

Leaflets kill?

If the Gazans don't want to die, all they need is to return all the hostages. So simple, they could have done so 16 months ago, they would even still have their homes then!

«Israel's caused all the Muslims coming to western countries, and made their problem ours.»

Like Assad murdering the Syrian people and Gaddafi the Libyans?
There was never a time for millennia when Middle-Eastern tribes did not fight among themselves, sending out refugees scurrying wherever they could.
Actually, haven't anglo-saxon inter-tribal fights caused the same effects?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 23 February 2025 11:34:16 AM
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Hostages Yuyutsu?

Why am I just this second seeing an image of one of yesterdays 6 released Israeli hostages embracing and kissing the head of a Hamas fighter?

The Image That SHOCKED THE WORLD & SURPRISING MESSAGE From Hamas To Israel
http://www.youtube.com/live/0jk4y4p0fV0

And why is it always 'minimise outrage of what Israel does' but 'maximise outrage of what everyone else does'

I bet if the Sydney nurses were putting hateful leaflets under the wipers of cars in a Jewish neighbourhood in Australia with a similar message, you'd hold a different position right?
Or are you saying that would be fine?

All this hypocrisy simply reflects just an attitude of Jewish self-entitlement.
I know some of the things I say you must find difficult to accept,
- But you should not have implied I'd send my own loved ones ahead to step on land mines.

The only reason the Muslims have to avoid land mines is because of wars on Israels behalf.
- And kids step on those land mines too. SHAME!

You know why people dislike the things I say?
- Because they're 'Inconvenient truths'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 23 February 2025 12:29:57 PM
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