Thanks anti,

' If Bowen keeps on with his wind and solar lunacy you will fast realise how wrong that statement is.'

As if.
There's nothing he can really achieve without the people who really run the country doing something about it. The managerial arm of the country is pretty impotent.

"There's nothing he can really achieve without the people who really run the country doing something about it."

Really? Like the Elders of Zion secretly pushing the levers? People who have endured communism and seen it replaced with democracy might have a different view. Personally I like Holland. People there are endlessly complaining about things, but they enjoy a good outcome for it. Truly a grass roots democracy.

I think the real reason for Labor's failure is the rejection of its grass roots heritage for an autocratic mindset. Albo and Bowen have that mindset in spades.

A couple of giggles:

When the Daily Telegraph discovered that foreign brothel keepers were on Albanese's Core Skills Occupation List for immigrants, Tony Burke agreed to remove them.

When 40 economists were asked for advice on Australia's economy, Professor Richard Holden of the University of NSW said, “Pray”.

You really terrified of autocrats Fester? lolzz

And any reds under the bed have long been exterminated. What century are you from? Greed is Good!

It could be said that Albanese has been moving Australia away from democracy to what is called PATHOCRACY, which refers to pathological governments that turn against their own people. Soviet Russia was a good example of a pathocracy, as is Communist China now.

No, more flabbergasted by your utter lack of understanding of the development of civilisation over the past few millennia. You might as well argue that we are doomed no matter what we do because the demons have a set on us. I guess that your great achievement is to give them another name.

Autocracy survives in many parts of the world and actively promotes the idea of western democracy as a decadent system headed for failure. In reality, the only risk is in abandoning the foundations that made the system a strong one, like replacing conservative bureaucrats with political activists, tearing down a reliable grid producing cheap energy to found our prosperity and replacing it with dysfunctional wind and solar that will leave the nation destitute and in chaos.