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Albanese A Goner in 2025?

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Hi AC,

We have discussed this before, you can change the hamster, but the hamster must keep the wheel turning, that's all he has to do. Our leaders have to be the "right kind of chaps, decent fellows who know their duty". Like the hamster our political class must operate in a confined system, no deviation will be tolerated from the norm is acceptable to the ruling class.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 December 2024 8:24:26 AM
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AC

I don't carry a flag for Dutton, but there are a few reasons why he would be better: relations with Israel would return to what was once normal and shared with a Labor Party not led by a left-wing extremist.

And, Dutton has pledged to knock on the head 3 offshore groups of unsightly, dangerous windmills mooted by Labor, if he is elected.

The Coalition has always managed our money better than Labor.

There are many advantages to Australians that you might not agree with, but a lot of the 18 million or so voters will.

The Albanese government has proved to be the worst Australian government ever. Even life-long Labor voters don't recognise their party now: only 32% of them gave their first preferences to it.

Former Labor minister Mike Kelly has said that the synagogue attack makes Australia “look terrible”. Former Labor MP Michael Danby says Albanese says Albanese is “all tactics and no strategy”.

For the first time ever, an Israeli PM has criticised an Australian government for rewarding terrorism in the UN.

How far the ALP has fallen under Albanese - and it has taken Australia with it.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 7 December 2024 10:12:04 AM
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Good economic management is not about a simple question
of averages. It is about how governments respond to
events beyond their control. Such as global financial crisis,
pandemics, fires and floods.

But again it is all in the eye pf the beholder. However, it is
incorrect to suggest that taxes are always lower under
Coalition governments. The two hghest taxing governments in the
past half century have both been Coalition governments. It is
clear that the Coalition can't claim the title of being a
better economic manager.

Do any of us really want to go back to the old outmoded
politics and tactics of the past where instead of consultation,
and working toegther, we go back to the same old - divisions,
attacks, denials, aggression, blockages, as the norm?

Be careful what you wish for. And more importantly - how you
vote and the type of country and society you want to live in.
Look at America. Do we want that socrt of division and
hatred here?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 7 December 2024 11:32:52 AM
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We may may disagree on Israel, but I genuinely prefer a more conservative approach to things rather than the progressive side.
I'm just not really religious, more ethical.

It used to be just left and right, now it's far left and far right.
Democracy itself almost feels like a recipe for polarisation.
I feel like both sides often take things way too far.
I wish we could just find some sensitive middle ground on things.

Debates between far left and far right poison this middle ground.
Nutters on the one side and nutters on the other.

You all have every right to vote in a manner that you believe is the right path, as we all do, I don't object to that.

You can all criticise or object to my opinions and positions on things this is fine, some may think I create an unhealthy debate, and often I am harsh on other peoples positions, but nothing I say is ever without reason or merit.

As for Israel, well I'm not an Israel-firster, more of an Australia-firster.
And although many would disagree, I'm not entirely anti-semitic, I'm just not pro-semitic, and I feel like there's this kind of unwritten rule, that if you are not pro-semitic, then by default you are anti-semitic.

My arguments have always been in line with a 'War on stupid';
- Not necessarily stupid people, but more stupid ideas.
When people double down on backing said stupid ideas then I tend to think:
'Why the hell are all these people thinking'

A lot of the world is not exactly what it seems to be, and I don't hide from pointing it out.

I'm not out to change the world, just having an opinion.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 December 2024 11:53:20 AM
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Seven consecutive quarters of negative per capita gdp growth, the worst since records began in 1973. Albo hasn't led the worst government of a generation. He has led the worst government of a lifetime.

https://ipa.org.au/publications-ipa/media-releases/australians-are-deep-in-recession-record-seventh-consecutive-quarter-of-per-capita-gdp-decline

A legacy so awful it's unspinnable, and for the Albo cult's propaganda department that is saying something.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 7 December 2024 12:04:29 PM
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'I honestly don't see what difference it makes.
Let's say Albo loses the next election, then what?
We may not have Labor in charge doing dumb things, we'll have Dutton in charge doing dumb things instead, and just like Albo when the Aussie citizens get fed up with Dutton, just as many are fed up with Albo now, the baton will get passed back to Labor again.

It's just a vicious cycle of kicking the current leader out while convincing ourselves we're voting for the 'lesser evil' every time.
Rinse and repeat.'

That sums up how I have always felt about Aus politics. The thing is I think people vastly overestimate the influence the government really has.
Posted by Houellebecq, Saturday, 7 December 2024 12:10:37 PM
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