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Immigration: What Is Best For Australia
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Posted by ttbn, Monday, 14 October 2024 7:56:24 AM
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It’s a while since I visited the Quadrant website. It has certainly gone downhill.
Smith’s article is guilty of the logical fallacy of equivocation – taking a word with two or more meanings and applying one meaning in one part of the argument and another in a different part. Australia’s migration policy does unashamedly discriminate in who it lets in, in precisely the way you suggest it should – selecting people whose skills, age profile etc confirm with those the Australian Government thinks we most need. The great majority of immigrants are people whose skills are in short supply, and their families: http://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/migration-program-planning-levels We do have a small annual humanitarian intake, but the rest are pretty much only allowed in if they are expected to make a positive contribution to the economy and society. Our policy is “non-discriminatory” in the sense that race and religion are not criteria in determining eligibility. Quite rightly. What Smith’s dog-whistle article does is to implicitly conflate the two types of discrimination – implying that by not discriminating on the basis of race or religion, we are not choosing the best migrants. It presents zero evidence to demonstrate why this is so. Posted by Rhian, Monday, 14 October 2024 6:10:36 PM
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Currently there are about 70,000 visa overstayers in Australia who should have been deported by now.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 14 October 2024 9:05:12 PM
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The gene pool is in desperate need of freshening up but the present flooding by pretend "refugees" is not helping at all !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 6:15:12 AM
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Discrimination is a great quality - it means knowing right from wrong and true from untrue.
While action may follow discrimination, discrimination itself is about recognition alone: while discrimination is legitimate at all times, any following action(s) still ought to be legitimate on their own merits. While blocking someone from entering your home or your society is generally legitimate, blocking them from entering a whole country or continent, is not. Your home is yours, your society is (in common) yours, but the land is God's, not yours - you have not created it, so only the improvements you make of the land can ever be yours, not the land itself. By all means, do discriminate and based on that freely decide whom to invite and whom to admit into your society(s), but when others enter the land anyway, uninvited, you have no moral legitimacy to physically block and/or expel them. It goes without saying that such uninvited people would still not be entitled to be admitted into your society or enjoy its benefits and the improvements you made on the land. In summary, do discriminate - but include in that discrimination not only the material advantages and disadvantages, but also what is morally right or wrong for you to do. Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 6:23:18 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Invasion is not welcome under any circumstances as Australians are only too familiar with. Invasion by stealth & deceit is a totally different game altogether. It is one thing to take over land & provide for all but to arrive with no intention in the first place to pull your weight for the good of all & state your open agenda to take over the Nation is not on in anyone's language ! Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 6:34:38 AM
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Australian regimes allow into our country anyone who wants to come here, with few exceptions, including the maniacs from theocracies who hate us and our values, and who are now taking over our streets.
We should be choosing the best: those with the most to offer; not criminals, terrorists and terrorist sympathisers, and “disabled people” currently accepted by Albanese, Wong, Burke, and the Greens.
And, of course, multiculturalism has always been a “crock”.
Our immigration policy should be aimed at helping Australia be a “secure and pleasant, prosperous country” for its citizens. Something it no longer is.
Smith believes, as I do, that the national interest should be the only criterion driving immigration.
https://quadrant.org.au/features/australia/304822/