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Quo Vadis Israel?

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But under Netanyahu and his government - the chances are slim.
Foxy,
Wrong ! With people such as yourself the chances are slimmer than slim !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 3 October 2024 6:08:59 PM
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Indyvidual,

We're all used to internet forums where rudeness and
incivility are the norm and where some people seem
to take pride in their insults.

However insults as we know are the last resort of
insecure and ignorant people with a crumbling
position.

Surely you're better than that.

Perhaps not.

Facts will always prove you wrong.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 October 2024 11:02:24 PM
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cont'd ...

Indyvidual,

Your views on the chances for peace in the Middle East
being slim, "slimmer than slim" because of "people Like
Me?" Are concerning.

"People like me" who want the conflict in the Middle East
to end. Who want to see the violence stop. Who want to
see peace, freedom, and justice for all in the Middle East,
not just for a "chosen few."

Who want to see Israel's occupation and their draconian
control of the Palestinian people come to an end. People
like me who see that the violence won't end until the
conditions that produced it and continue to produce it end.

The numbers of people like me are growing world-wide as
hopefully are the chances for peace in the Middle East.
But it is all up to Israel and its ironclad Western
supporters that are blocking and making the chances for
peace in the region slimmer than slim. It's people like
YOU that need to see the long-term bigger picture.

But having such a small lens makes it difficult for you.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 4 October 2024 9:44:24 AM
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Fortunately, Israel is running its own affairs as is proper, and a few people's ramblings on the internet mean absolutely nothing.

The Albanese government has let the side down; Wong has made a fool of herself in the UN again. And our relationship with Israel has been wrecked by an Australian government that is both anti-Semitic and hopeless with combating promotion of terrorism in Australia. The laws are there, but they won't use them because they are scared stiff of losing Muslim votes. Like all anti-democratic governments, the Albanese example has reversed the very idea of democracy - majority rule - by siding with a minority for a few miserable votes.

Let's hope that the majority treats this worst-ever Prime Minister in the way that they treated him on his racist Voice at the coming election.

Albanese, with the help of Wong and Marles have made Australia a laughing stock that the rest of the world doesn't listen to.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:01:13 AM
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"can there ever be peace in the Middle East as long as there are two lots of people"

Peace will come to the region when the people who call themselves Palestinians come to realise that they can't win it all. That 'From the River to the Sea' is a fantasy that will never be achievable. When they finally decide that living a peaceful life pursuing economic gain is preferrable to a living a violent life pursuing the destruction of the Jewish state.

I suspect the people in Gaza and the West Bank are already there but the leadership, which personally benefits from ongoing warfare, are a long way from wanting peace or any sort of accommodation with the Jew. That leadership has to be replaced for peace to be achieved.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:42:39 AM
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The leadership has to be replaced on both sides.
Absolutely.

New negotiators are needed.

The calls are very clear when you have the US, Australia, UK,
Canada, and other nations calling for a de-escalation
(and dialogue) of this conflict.

The international community including the UN Security Council
must work together to pave a path for lasting peace.
As both the PM and our Foreign Minister have made
clear - "we cannot wait for the parties to do this
themselves, we cannot allow any party to obstruct the
prospect of peace."

Simon Birmingham, the Opposition's Foreign Affairs
spokesperson urged Israel "to engage with their
closest partners, especially the US government to prevent
regional escalation."

He told Sky News -

"I heard the Israeli Ambassador to the UN this morning being
clear that they don't wish to see an all-out war or all-out
conflict. And if this desire is to avoid that, then that
requires engagement to try to find diplomatic solutions."

"War has rules" even when confronting terrorists. Penny Wong
told the UN Security Council.

"The world can't allow any party to obstruct peace in the
Middle East. We need to press for an immediate ceasefire
in Gaza and Lebanon".

The Australian government's position that a Palestinian state
along side the state of Israel was - "the only hope to finally
break the endless cycle of violence for a secure, prosperous,
future for Palestinians and Israelis."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 4 October 2024 12:05:04 PM
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