Isreal has supported a two state arrangement several times since 1948; including an offer of 80% of the land involved. All offers have been refused by the Arabs.

There is now no two state solution on the agenda from either side. It's all in the minds of ignorant people like Penny Wong and the constantly ignorant.

Talking about consistent ignorance?

We've been told that:

"History lies at the core of every conflict."

And:

"A true and unbiased understanding of the past offers
the possibility of peace". That "the distortion or
manipulation of history, in contrast, will only sow
disorder".

"Disinformation, even of the most recent past, can do
tremenduous harm".

"This wilful misinformation of history can promote
oppression and protect a regime of colonization and
occupation".

"It is not surprising, therefore, that policies of
disinformation and distortion continue to the
present and play an important part in perpetuating the
conflict , leaving very little hope for the future".

To paraphrase former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert:

"When I argue with people I say - "What is the solution?"

"What do you think can be done?"

"Do you think that we can continue to control
4.5 million people without rights, with unlimited
occupation forever?"

"Do you think that can work?"

Usually he says they don't have an answer.

"Its usually futile to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." Thomas Sowell.

""Disinformation, even of the most recent past, can do
tremenduous harm".

And yet you said... "A two state solution has been rejected by Israel every time it was offered."

Not only that, but when shown that that is comprehensively moronic, just carried on as though the facts were immaterial.

There will be no peace and security for Israelis until
Palestinians enjoy freedom, justice, and equality.
Foxy,
Something tells me that you're wrong !

Hate to ruin your party mhaze
(actually I don't mind at all)

"In 2000, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak met at Camp David, with Palestinian Liberation Organization Chairman Nasser Arafat, to conclude a new two-state plan. Barak offered Arafat a Palestinian state in all of Gaza, and 94% of the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital. But the Palestinian leader rejected the offer.
In the words of U.S. President Bill Clinton, “Arafat was here 14 days and said no to everything.”

Now my question to you is this
Why is it that I get a different story from some Jews themselves?
I'm sitting here reading your 'claims' but some other Jew is telling me a different story?

"that is one of the most egregious propaganda beliefs that has infiltrated our society and the collective mind of Jewish culture"

Former AIPAC member debunks Zionism: US, Israel, Palestine, Norman Finkelstein, Alan Dershowitz
http://youtu.be/nVxIYPQC2K8?si=9W5b2mIUzVN-uH_I&t=810

>>So you mentioned the Barak peace proposal.
Which which refers to the 2000 Camp David Summit at the end of Bill Clinton's presidency.
And yes, that is one of the most egregious propaganda beliefs that has been that has infiltrated our society and the collective mind of Jewish culture, because they believe that Ehud Barak made a generous offer to the Palestinians, and the Palestinians rejected it, and they rejected it 'cause they always reject peace, 'cause they've rejected every other peace proposal prior to the year 2000, the Camp David Summit.
Well, first of all, Israel has rejected or ignored every peace proposal since 1948, since its establishment, every single one. And the 2000 Camp David is an example. So the head of Ehud Barak's negotiating team was Shlomo Ben Ami. And Shlomo Ben Ami, at the end of the failed summit, said of the concessions offered by Israel fell far short of even modest Palestinian expectations.
A couple of years after that, he said, If I were a Palestinian, I would have rejected Camp David as well.<<

" I would have rejected Camp David as well"

Oh good, so you agree that the Palestinians rejected the pro-offered two state solution, which of course was my point.

We all know why they rejected it. As far as Arafat was concerned unless he got 100% of everything he wanted, he would prefer to fight. That remains the case today.