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Quo Vadis Israel?

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Foxy,
I've noticed Assange has stuck his head up.
I'm not sure it's in his interests to get back to wikileaks
I'm not sure the man is going to be able to help himself though.

http://x.com/afshinrattansi/status/1841846053051445478
Assange: ‘Artificial intelligence is being used for mass assassinations in Gaza’
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 October 2024 10:27:14 AM
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Hi AC,

A two-state solution is the only answer. Everyone's
calling for a de-escalation (and dialogue) for this
conflict.

The international community including the UN
Security Council must work together to pave a path
for lasting peace. It cannot wait for the parties
to do this themselves. It cannot allow any party
to continue to obstruct the prospect of peace.

This requires engagement and trying to find
diplomatic solutions. Which is something that
to date - Israel has been unwilling to do except only
on its terms. This needs to change.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 5 October 2024 10:39:46 AM
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Hi AC,

Thanks for the Assange link.

I'm not surprised by what he's saying.

Just scared about what the outcomes will be
if this barrage does not stop.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 5 October 2024 10:44:10 AM
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Well Israel has stated that it will respond after Rosh Hashanah. (Jewish New Year)
Netanyahu can't go back on what he's said, he'll look weak.

And Iran have publicly stated that the 'Phase of unilateral restraint has ended, and that if Israel retaliates Irans response will be 100 times worse.

Hopefully cooler heads prevail, but I'm not hopeful.

This video is doing the rounds atm.
http://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1841810284475715876
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 October 2024 10:54:57 AM
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" Which is something that to date - Israel has been unwilling to do except only on its terms. "

Just repeating it over and over and over and over doesn't make it so or any less historically ignorant. But I guess if that's all you've got, then needs must.

This war will end when the Israelis have removed Hezbollah as a military force in the Middle East, when they have cowered the Houthis into silence and when Iran's leaders are put back in their box with their proxy empire in tatters.

Then and only then will peace return to the Levant at least for a decade or so.

Long-term peace will only come to the Levant when the people who call themselves Palestinians, or more exactly their leadership, finally realises that they cannot win it all From the River to The Sea and that what was previously offered and rejected was as good as they are ever going to get. That and when the people who call themselves Palestinians, or more exactly their leadership, finally decide that providing economic welfare and certainty for their families and community is more important than wiping out the hated Jew.

That is probably a long way off because the Palestinian leadership is doing very nicely thank you out of the current arrangements given that they are both powerful and fabulously wealthy thanks to stolen aid funds. Not to mention the odd sex slave... (http://tiny.cc/p4rozz).

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Just on Assange. I notice that the Queensland government has now made 'stealthing' a crime punishable by life imprisonment. Stealthing is when someone secretly removes a condom while having sex. This is the exact crime Assange was charged with in Sweden.

St Julian might have to rethink which Australian state he decides to live in least he spend even more time behind bars.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:02:20 AM
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I read with great interest that "The Jewish Council of
Australia is made up of people with diverse histories,
traditions, and politics. "

"They're a coalition of Jewish academics, lawyers,
writers and experts on antisemitism and racism".

"They challenge assumptions and promote debate. They
reject the assumption that Jews and the State of Israel
are one and the same or that all Jewish people support
without criticism the actions of the Israeli government
and military".

They tell us that "pro-Israel Jewish organizations that
don't recognize the diversity of views among Australian
Jews don't speak for them."

"While they're united in their opposition to Israel's
continued policies aimed at the destruction of the
Palestinian people they are opposed to the Israeli
occupation and the prioritization of the rights of
Jewish people over the rights of Palestinians".

They stress that "Jewish safety is not at odds with
Palestinian freedom.. That we should all support calls
for freedom, equality and justice for all Palestinians
and Israelis". The claim that these calls are racist
or antisemitic should be rejected.

We're told that "Racism and antisemitism is on the rise
in Australia and in Europe" and "the only way to
effectively fight it is by communities to work with other
groups facing bigotry and discrimination in order to
fight all forms of racism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Council_of_Australia
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:55:59 AM
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