By the way, Australia should never again become involved in wars that if lost, like they all have been since Vietnam, if it means having to deal with refugees who are not Christians or, at least, do not adhere to Islam. The last mass influx of refugees from Vietnam - fleeing Communism - was the last of the decent, hard working and loyal to Australia group.

Funnily enough, the hard Left in the shape of Gough Whitlam, didn't want those "bloody Nazis" coming here, but couldn't stop them. Gough would probably love the situation Australia is now in.

As a hero-worshipper of Whitlam, Albanese doesn't have the erudition, appearance, beautiful speaking voice and humour of Whitlam. Surely, if Whitlam couldn't fool us, we are not going to be fooled by a jerk like Albanese and fail to kick him out.

Quo Vadis Israel?
- Israel's choice.

http://x.com/DeepBlueCrypto/status/1840772310057312571

"We're defined by the choices we make".

I've read this quote many times. Life is made up of an
infinite amount of choices. But, it's the big decisions
that can have the biggest impacts and are tough to make.

I believe we make good choices when we weigh up the
consequences and the possibilities and stay true to our
morals and values and try to insure that fear and
doubts don't impact on our decisions.

Fear of the foreigner and the person who is different is
as old as human history. It's a personal struggle of
each of us, the struggle between our generosity and
our fear.

If Ben Chifley and Malcolm Fraser had appealed only to our
darker angels, we would never have taken large numbers
of Jews and Indochinese refugees.

I recently read that "The Holy Family was certainly lucky
when it fled as refugees to Egypt that the Pharaoh did
not have a policy to "stop the donkeys!" .

Talking about choices?

Western countries not only support the Israeli
government economically and politically, but also militarily.

One of the most powerful armies in the region has been
supported by several of the strongest armies in the world.
Western governments provide weapons to Israel to continue
their attacks against the Palestinian people.

Israel's choices are clear. Not only their attacks need to
stop. But, so does their occupation.
And the West needs to stop its support and the excusing
and legitimisation of Israel's actions.

"So AC, is that one of those things you post because you think its true.
Or one of those things you post despite thinking its wrong.
Or one of those things you post hoping it true but which you'll claim to have never believed once its shown to be rubbish."

Well I was going to add a disclaimer that the reports are unconfirmed.
But I thought it might be more interesting to get your commentary.
Told you months back that Iran proved it can hit Israel anytime it wants.
The same can be said for Hezbollah and the Houthis.

I'm guessing Israels going to respond to the attack against them, in the hope they can get a bigger war going and then scream to America, 'We're being attacked by 3 enemies at once. Please come save us, you take care of Iran, we'll deal with Hamas and Hezbollah.'

Iran has been getting a lot of Russian missile defense in recent months.
Well see how that goes, Israel might try to hit Iranian nuclear sites.

Netanyahu will be trying to convince Putin to stay out of it and that the changes in the region he's raving about would be good for Russia, which is untrue.

Russia signals upcoming signing of strategic partnership accord with Iran
http://amwaj.media/media-monitor/russia-signals-upcoming-signing-of-strategic-partnership-accord-with-iran

A lot of missiles got through.
I thought the U.S and Israel had prepared for this.
http://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1841187326703386662

"Gough Whitlam, didn't want those "bloody Nazis" coming here, "

That's not quite true. He said he was "not having hundreds of f#cking Vietnamese Balts coming into this country."

By Balts he was referring to people who came here from the Baltic countries to escape the tender mercies of the Soviet Union. As a good comrade, Gough was always enamoured of Mother Russia and considered anyone who wanted out of the USSR to be beyond the pale.

I wonder how people descended from those 'balts' feel about that, eh Foxy?

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AC wrote: "Well I was going to add a disclaimer that the reports are unconfirmed. But I thought it might be more interesting to get your commentary."

Oh so one of those things you post hoping it true but which you'll claim to have never believed once its shown to be rubbish. okaaaay.

"A lot of missiles got through."

Well not according to initial reports which show no real damage to speak of - certain no destroyed F15s - and the only death being a Gazan, which is rather ironic when you think about it.

A lot of missiles got destroyed and the shrapnel got through but I'm not sure that counts.

Meanwhile Iran is now begging Israel to not retaliate while they quietly throw away their pagers.

"Told you months back that Iran proved it can hit Israel anytime it wants. The same can be said for Hezbollah and the Houthis."

Well you say a lot of things that turn out to be rubbish. But hitting Israel is one thing. Doing any real damage is another. And doing it without getting the snot kicked out of you by Israel is altogether another thing. Ask Nazrallah or Haniyeh. Oh wait, you can't