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Quo Vadis Israel?

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Dear Banjo Paterson,

«The number of Jews worldwide stands at approximately 15.7 million.»

Well this is nonsensical unless one can first define a "Jew".

There is no such agreed definition.

To demonstrate, let me translate a Jewish-Israeli survey, asking whether the following are Jewish or not:

Ilya was born in Russia to a Jewish mother and a non-Jewish father.
He has no connection to any Jewish organisation or community,
does not consider himself a Jew, but rather a Russian atheist.

Jewish? 64%

Betty was born in Chicago to non-Jewish parents.
She migrated to Israel out of love, serves in the IDF,
did not formally convert - but feels Jewish.

Jewish? 79%

Geva-A was born in Jerusalem to Jewish parents,
migrated to Australia, considers himself a non-Jewish Australian

Jewish? 75%

Geva-B was born in Jerusalem to a Jewish father,
migrated to Australia, considers himself a non-Jewish Australian

Jewish? 69%

Dana was born in Berlin to Jewish parents,
married an Arab-Israeli and lives in Nazareth (an Arab-Israeli town).

Jewish? 87%

Helena was born in Amsterdam, married a Jew,
converted to Judaism through a Chabad Rabbi,
divorced her Jewish husband and no longer considers herself a Jew.

Jewish? 49%

Valdi was born in Lithuania, Jewish mother, father unknown,
considers himself Christian.

Jewish? 53%

Zamir was born in Netanya (Israel), non-Jewish mother,
converted to Judaism in Israel by a reform-Rabbi.

Jewish? 33%

Hami was born in Tel Aviv, Jewish parents, married a Jew,
they live in Israel, considers himself a non-Jewish Israeli.

Jewish? 86%

Tavi was born in Paris, non-Jewish parents,
converted to Judaism through a reform-Rabbi in Paris,
married a non-Jew.

Jewish? 45%

Yael was born in Los Angeles to non-Jewish parents
and decided to live according to Jewish morals.

Jewish? 65%

Daniel converted to Christianity in order to survive the holocaust,
remained Christian and came to live in Israel,
considers himself both Christian and Jewish.

Jewish? 82%

Miriam is a Bosnian born athlete, grew up in Israel,
won an olympic medal,
wants to be recognised as Jewish without a formal conversion.

Jewish? 65%
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 11 October 2024 8:35:00 AM
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Foxy,

I resent the fact that people like yourself, migrants into Australia, bring their hatreds and misinformation with them.

5 times in the past Palestine rejected offer to have its own state africachinapresscentre.org

Israel agreed to accept 20% of the territory.

Palestinians are despised, alienated from the Arab world.

In Jordan nearly 25,000 died when the PLO tried to overthrow the government and tried to assassinate the King of Jordan.

Kuwait and Saudi Arabia expelled over 350,000 Palestinians after Arafat's support of Saddam's invasion.

Lebanon - due to the PLO's activities after arriving in the country, resulting in a war with Israel and a civil war that resulted in Syria's intervention.

Then there is the Palestinian support of Russia's invasion of Ukraine
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:48:07 AM
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Israel is a tiny, tiny country, less than a third the size of Tasmania.

North-south 290 miles long
Narrowest point 9 miles wide
Widest point 85 miles

A population of 9,842,000

Jews 7,208,000 73.6%
Arabs 2,080,000 21.1% Some identify as Palestinian, Druze, Circassians, Christian Arab, and Armenian.

Non-Jew/non Arab 554,000 5.7%

Israel is one of the most successful multicultural and multilingual societies in the world. The languages spoken are Hebrew, Arabic, English and Russian.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:15:02 PM
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Foxy

When I see your posts, I immediately think of Dunning-Kruger.

You admit to being a cheer leader for the ICC. Whilst established for the most noble of reasons, this organization is now corrupt and racist.

You need to do your homework ... then perhaps you do.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:21:34 PM
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Israel has every right to defend itself.

The IDF is considered the most noble fighting force in the world. The IDF always warns ahead when about to attack.

If Hamas released the hostages and laid down its arms .... Peace.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:37:40 PM
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WhiteMouse,

I did not bring misinformation into this country.
I am professionally trained to look for and present
facts.
Also, I am an Aussie. Born here.
Where did your ancestors come from? Were you born here?

I, have done a great deal of research on Israel. I have
studied its history as well as the current events.
I also have many Israeli friends who keep me
informed.

If you resent the facts - that's not my fault. All I can
do is politely suggest you don't read them or what I post.
Read only what's acceptable to you and the myths that glorify
your values, morals, and ideologies.

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BTW:
"There is not one place build in this country
that did not have a former Arab population."

"There is no more Palestine. Finished."

( Moshe Dayan).

Ever heard of Ariel "the bulldozer" Sharon?

Why was a former Prime Minister of Israel assassinated?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:41:01 PM
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