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Trump Found Guilty: What happens next?
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Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 2 June 2024 5:32:18 AM
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George (Slave Owning) Washington
Paul1405, It's obvious you'd much prefer a (Slave selling) Arab ! Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 2 June 2024 7:51:12 AM
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Trump's attacks on the US Criminal Justice System and on
President Biden. Trump's accusations of "unprecedented political prosecution," his unfounded grievances of a "rigged system", his dangerous conspiracies of a "weaponized" government" is how fascism works. President Biden, as President has no authority over the state court in New York. The jury who found Trump guilty on all 34 charges was also chosen by his defence team. They were a wide mix of people and trump was given plenty of time for his defence. What we're getting is the fact that if Trump wins, he's going to use the apparatus of the state to target his political opponents. Believe what the man is saying. And anyone who's trying to turn the US judicial system into a political weapon (cudgel) must be held accountable. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 June 2024 8:46:49 AM
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Trump's turbulent tenure as president is on record.
Under Trump America retreated from its global and moral leadership roles, alienated its democratic állies and abandoned the bipartisan defense of liberal ideals that had led to more than 70 years of security and prosperity. He made the United States more isolated, less respected, weaker at home and ultimately less safe under his leadership. He has dishonored the ideals of his country and turned its people one against the other. No well informed person would vote for this man a second time. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 June 2024 9:47:21 AM
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AC writes rather incongruously "I know Trump didn't start any wars.
I just don't get the feeling Trump will be any better this time." He won't do any better than not starting any wars? How much better than that can he get? I know that for some he's a warmonger and the facts don't matter. He didn't start any wars last time, but he'll have to do a lot better than that this time!! Sheesh! ______________________________________________________________________ Paul (with an implied smirk) writes "How does it feel having a convicted criminal as your supreme leader?" I guess I feel the same way as people who supported Mandela, or Navalny, or Václav Havel, or Aung San Suu Kyi, or Jawaharlal Nehru, or Michelle Bachelet or..... Trump is in very good company of leaders who were prosecuted and persecuted by corrupt regimes so I feel quite comfortable supporting him. Paul, OTOH, likes to think of himself as an anti-establishment deep-thinker, when in fact, whenever push comes to shove, he meekly follows the establishment line along with all the other sheeples Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 2 June 2024 10:17:04 AM
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This is the article Foxy stole most of her last post from....
http://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-national-security-foreign-policy-failures-year-one/ written by a far left anti-Trump NGO with zero regard for the facts on the ground. Foxy wrote: "He has dishonored the ideals of his country..". Hint: "dishonored". When you are going to steal others thoughts and pass them off as your own so as to appear erudite, the least you could do is alter the US spelling to Australian English spelling. Foxy wrote (or did she steal?): "President Biden, as President has no authority over the state court in New York." That's true to a minor degree. But its been proven that Biden's DOJ was heavily involved in assisting the NY prosecutors and that those prosecutors regularly travelled to DC to get their instructions from the Feds. Foxy wrote (or did she steal?): The jury who found Trump guilty on all 34 charges was also chosen by his defence team. Not true. The district that the jury was chosen from had previously voted 95% for Hilary and 90% for sleepy Joe. So the vast majority were anti-Trump from the outset. So you bring in 100 potential jurors knowing that, at best 10 are not antagonistic to Trump. You then allow the defence to reject up to 30 of the group and allow the prosecution likewise. So the 10 not antagonistic to Trump get rejected and, hey presto!, you get a jury that would convict a ham sandwich if told to by the Democrat prosecutors. "And anyone who's trying to turn the US judicial system into a political weapon (cudgel) must be held accountable." I suspect Biden et al will be. Maybe not by Trump who I still think will be defeated by a rigged system, but by those who pick up the mantle. http://youtu.be/t8RCQDDsMpU Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 2 June 2024 10:40:13 AM
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It doesn't much matter if Donald Trump, Joe Biden or Micky Mouse is President of United States, although the third candidate on my list might be preferred. The fact is every President since George (Slave Owning) Washington has toes the "correct" political line to facilitate the expansion of Capitalism, both within America and on a global scale. Capitalism and its necessary drive for expansion has had both beneficial and detrimental effects. The benefits include economic growth through increased productivity, and when combined with a safety net of moderate Socialism gives a better overall result than each on its own, or any other political/economic system. Conflict develops when government through necessity tries to redistribute wealth away from capital and towards social equality, not an easy task, as demonstrated by the huge number of laws required to give the desired outcome. What is your preferred economic/political system? In the American context there would be no fundamental change regardless of whether Biden is President or Trump gets the gig.