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Trump Found Guilty: What happens next?

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I do not accept your apology Foxy.
There was nothing to apologise for.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 3 June 2024 4:20:55 PM
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Watching Q&A right now I was stunned at the blatant hypocrisy displayed during the discussion about Assange. It was said that Biden & Trump promised to look at the Assange situation if elected. There was a Pie chart showing the majority's view on releasing Assange & a small wedge showing undecided or against.
The large part was in red as in Labor & the small one in blue as in LNP. If that was not a callously calculated politically biased display I'd like someone explain why not !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 3 June 2024 10:39:16 PM
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Dear Foxy,

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Trumpism has undoubtedly become the most powerful political cult in the USA today with the one and only Donald the Dictator as its omniscient guru.

Trumpism has everything of a cult : charismatic authority, a transcendent belief system, a system of control, and a system of influence.

As Janja Lalich, a cult researcher and professor emerita of sociology at California State University, Chico explains :

« The result of this interactive dynamic is a “self-sealing system,” that is, a social system that is closed to disconfirming evidence and structured in such a way that everything reinforces the system »

She continues :

« The interrelated and interlocking nature of the four dimensions form a “self-sealing system,” a social system closed in on itself and closed to the outside world. It is characterized by ideological totalism and processes of influence and control that may lead adherents to a high degree of commitment that I have identified as “charismatic commitment.” Now the dedicated adherent becomes a “true believer” in the sense of being a deployable agent for the group or leader. Living within the bounded reality of the cultic social system, the cult member encounters no meaningful reality checks and becomes more and more enmeshed with and invested in the closed world of the group.

For some, this may lead to a state of “personal closure,” or the individualized version of the self-sealing system. The member’s life and choices are constrained not only by the system but also, and perhaps even more powerfully, by the close-mindedness of the
individual him- or herself who is functioning in alliance with that system.

Now the dedicated adherent has entered a social-psychological state of being that I am calling bounded choice: in essence, life outside the cult has become impossible to imagine. »

It is estimated that there are about four or five thousand cults active in the United States today. Here are the four most notorious ones – much of Donald the Dictator’s rhetoric is similar to theirs :

http://home.heinonline.org/blog/2023/10/4-notorious-cults-in-american-history/#:~:text=1.,in%201931%20in%20rural%20Indiana.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 3 June 2024 11:59:45 PM
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Hi Indyvidual,

"The large part was in red as in Labor & the small one in blue as in LNP. If that was not a callously calculated politically biased display I'd like someone explain why not !"

I believe your argument is valid.
- It doesn't seem like a Labor V's Liberal issue anymore.

‘It’s incredible’: Julian Assange supporters thrilled by Dutton remarks May 5, 2023
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-expresses-frustration-over-assange-case-as-dutton-changes-tone-20230505-p5d5tx.html

>>Supporters of Julian Assange feel buoyed by the emergence of bipartisan support for the case against the WikiLeaks founder to be brought to a close after a significant change in rhetoric from Opposition Leader Peter Dutton...

"This needs to be brought to a conclusion. It needs to be worked through, we’re working through diplomatic channels, we’re making very clear what our position is on Mr Assange’s case."

Dutton backed Albanese’s position on Friday, saying Assange’s case had gone on for too long.

"The matters, I think, have to be dealt with and if the Prime Minister’s charting a course through to an outcome on that, that’s a good thing," he told ABC radio.

He indicated the opposition would work behind-the-scenes with the government to help secure Assange’s release.<<
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 9:53:02 AM
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Dear Banjo,

We lived and worked in the United States for close to
ten years and finally we decided to come home for
the sake of our children. We certainly have never
regretted doing so. And certainly when we witness what's
happening there now.

Biden bow out
Trump supporters shout
We want our man for the job
We'll fight for the right
Of our mob's destined plight
To make America Great Again

Trump won't refrain
He can't be restrained
He's on a path to glory
None of us will rest
Until the very best
Make what was meant to be
A land that will rise
For all of us Whites
The Home of
The brave and the free.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:49:06 AM
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Foxy cluelessly writes: "The following link details the 34 counts and his guilty verdict."

Unsurprisingly the link doesn't mention white-collar crime.

Has that sunk in yet, Foxy? I suspect not.

Still, its pretty funny that Foxy spends who knows how many posts pretending that she knows what its all about and then finally decides to go look it up.

Not that you'll know, care, or in the least understand but none of the accusations against Trump are about white collar crime or profiteering from such crime.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 3:11:53 PM
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