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ICC Seeks Arrest Warrants For Israel , Hamas Leaders.

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Third try:

http://bbc.com/news/articles/cx88l499vero
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 May 2024 6:15:19 PM
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The Prosecutor at the end of the ICC Statement on the
Netanyahu and Hamas arrest warrants summed things up
in the following way:

"Let us today be clear on one core issue. If we do not
demonstrate our willingness to apply the law equally,
if it is seen as being applied selectively, we will be
creating the conditions for its collapse. "

"In doing so, we will be loosening the remaining bonds
that hold us together, the stabilising connections between
all communities and individuals, the safety net to which
all victims look in times of suffering. This is the true
risk we face at this moment."

"Now, more than ever, we must collectively demonstrate
that international humanitarian law, the foundational
baseline for human conduct during conflict, applies to
all individuals and applies equally across the
situations addressed by my Office and the Court."

"This is how we will prove, tangibly, that the lives
of all human beings have equal value."

http://bbc.com/news/articles/cx88l499vero
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:49:37 PM
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mhaze,

A quick trip to the OCHA website and under the heading "REPORTED IMPACT SINCE 7 OCTOBER 2023" what do we find; NOT YOUR NUMBERS BUT THE FOLLOWING NUMBERS.

PALESTINIANS
35,303+
Reported killed
MoH Gaza, in addition to 382 in the West Bank (OCHA) and ~1,000 in Israel, including people involved in the 7 October attack (Israeli authorities)

~79,261
Reported injured
MoH Gaza

ISRAELIS
1,200+
Reported killed
The estimate, which includes foreign nationals, has been changed by the Israeli sources.

~5,432
Reported injured
Israeli authorities, including foreign nationals

DAMAGE AND IDPS
70,000+
Housing units destroyed in Gaza
MoPWH

1.7 million
Displaced in Gaza
UN estimation
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 May 2024 6:11:58 AM
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Paul,

My point was that the numbers of women and children had been dramatically reduced.

You're looking in the wrong place - the story of your life.

http://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-220

That's for 13 May.

If you look at the pages from 6 May and 8 May you'll see the reduction.

See if you can follow this logic. If the number of claimed deaths remains as high as before by the number of women and children falls, that means more men (ie combatants) were killed. Using those numbers it is now clear that the numbers of combatants to civilian deaths is the lowest ever achieved by an army in an urban war ie the IDF is doing extraordinarily well at protecting civilian lives.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 25 May 2024 9:15:57 AM
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Civilians already suffering unspeakable horrors under
Israel's constant bombardment, displacement, dire living
conditions, where according to numerous international
human rights organizations - starvation is being
weaponised, where the aid is grossly insufficient and
the health system is no longer functioning.

And despite international condemnation - the Israeli forces
persist in targeting civilians continuously defying
international law time and time again. But of course the claim is
that the number of deaths have fallen and they don't really
target civilians. They're just a casualty of war. This
explanation is given so that the behaviour can continue.
The US can send them more arms.

It appears though that the International Criminal Court does
not agree with this standard scenario and is taking action.
But of course what can we expect from a Muslim Prosecutor -
right? An Israeli should have been chosen. But wait Israel is not
a member state of the ICC. I wonder why?

Of course Israel has supporters. Especially in the US. People
like Donald Trump and his supporters, will undoubtedly back
Israel's actions. Trump stated that Hannibal Lecter
"was a wonderful man." - Lecter did have a friend for dinner.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:19:13 AM
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mhaze,

"dramatically reduced" you say, well, you seem to be comfortable with lots of dead women and children in Gaza, maybe its because they are Muslims? hummmm! In fact the page you link to says 35,091 Palestinian casualties on day 220 May 13th, not some figure you dreamed up no figures of 7,797 (children) or 4,959 (women) are mentioned on that page, I assume its something you are making up, thinking its a defence for those Zionist war criminals you seem to be in love with!

The truth on that very page you provided a link to, "Disclaimer: Figures that are yet-to-be verified by the UN are attributed to their source."
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:32:34 PM
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