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Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:47:35 AM
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The reflexively anti-US brigade, in their usual ignorance, are saying Biden should also be charged with genocide for the non-genocide of the Gazans. They, of course, fail to realise (or wilfully ignore) evidence that Biden and his administration have been actively working to help Hamas and their masters, Iran, by withholding information from Israel and delaying or outright halting the shipment of promised supplies and munitions.
Still you have to feel sorry for politicians in democracies with sizable mohammedan populations. Biden is trying to walk a tight-rope between not pissing the Jewish lobby off too much, (since they have been active Democrat supporters for decades) and not pissing the mohammedans in Michigan off. Unfortunately for silly old Joe, he needs the electoral votes from Michigan in November and the sizable mohammedan vote there will be crucial. So he tries to keep the Jews onside by talking about his support for Israel while trying to mollify the mohammedans by dropping hints of how much he's helping Hamas/Iran. As usual he's failing. But all western leaders with mohammedan populations have the same problem. The Tories in Britain have likewise been playing footsie with Hamas to try to keep a lid on their own mohammedan problem. Ditto France and Germany. Poland, for obvious reasons, doesn't have this problem Australia also has the problem. But Albo, still in search of a backbone, has decided the best policy is to stay quiet and hope no one notices. Thus he used the moronic claim that he can't comment on court proceedings to try to avoid having to take sides on the ICC issue. I assume the usual flying-monkeys fell for it . Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 May 2024 11:05:11 AM
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Netanyahu's response has called the proposed charges:
"An attempt to deny Israel the basic right of self-defense." The charges are not about whether Israel can defend itself - but How. Not by committing war crimes. Netanyahu has also said that Israel had taken "unprecedented measures to ensure that humanitarian assistance reaches those in need in Gaza." A claim belied by extensive evidence of Israel's arbitrary obstruction of food, medicine and other necessities to the civilian population of Gaza, to the point of famine which has arrived in parts of the territory. Even the US government has been outspoken in its criticism of the Netanyahu government for its arbitrary obstruction of humanitarian aid. It is vitally important in recognizing the independence of the International Criminal Court. The rule of law does not apply only to one's adversaries. The rule of law should apply to both sides. Those who choose to defend the Israeli government regardless of what it does - should remember to affirm human rights standards regardless of who violates them. It is time for the world to reconsider these key issues. War crimes are war crimes - no matter who violates them. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 May 2024 11:25:39 AM
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"A claim belied by extensive evidence of Israel's arbitrary obstruction of food, medicine and other necessities to the civilian population of Gaza,"
Israel gave unprecedented assistance to the US to help it construct and install its floating pier to allow supplies to reach Gaza. Once those supplies started flowing, Hamas stolen 60% of them before they reached the UN store-houses where they would have been distributed to the population. Instead Hamas uses the stolen supplies to finance its activities and add to the phenomenal wealth of its leadership. One claim was that Hamas leadership has made around $US 500 million from the sale of stolen supplies. Egypt has been holding up supplies at Rafah because they won't allow Israel to inspect the truck for munitions. I'm guessing even someone as naive as Foxy can work out why they don't want the trucks searched. We have heard claims of impending famine ever since 8 October last. Yet its always impending and never happens . I'll leave you to work out why. Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 May 2024 11:45:12 AM
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Here is the full ICC statement on Netanyahu and Hamas
arrest warrants: http://bbc.com/news/articles/ck881499vero Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 May 2024 5:49:56 PM
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OOOPS. Another typo.
Here is the full ICC Statement on Netanyahu and Hamas arrest warrants: http://bbc.com/news/articles/cx881499vero Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 May 2024 5:56:22 PM
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Some IDF units had stood down as a protest against the court changes. That is what had been resolved.
So your contention is that the IDF had made unspecified warnings about a possible Palestinian attack at an unspecified point in time in some unspecified location with unspecified aims and an unspecified number of assailants. And based on that the Israeli government should have, in your view, kept the army on high alert and cancelled all leave for an unspecified amount of time in unspecified locations.
Well there's nothing like being specific and that's not like specific!
"I think that Netanyahu knew of the exact date from his friend Sinwar .."
Hold the presses folks. Armchair Critic has a rival in the utterly bonkers department.
I always feel these claims that the attacked party just allowed the attack to happen for vile purposes to be vaguely racist. Effectively what they are saying is that the Gazans are too stupid to have pulled this off by themselves and needed the help of those evil Jews to do it.