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AI tool permit Israel to kill civilians

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Thanks Foxy

For http://www.quora.com/profile/Noam-Cohen-6

Its a complex war with no side totally right or totally wrong.

But minimising civilian deaths is of the highest importance in the international community.

And that community includes Australia.
Posted by Maverick, Friday, 5 April 2024 4:43:42 PM
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There are rules of law, none of which stipulate just how many civilian deaths are acceptable. Civilians are killed during war. There were 6,000,000,000 Jews alone killed during WW11, not accidentally as in Gaza, but deliberately by the German equivalents of Hamas, their supporters and followers.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 5 April 2024 4:50:52 PM
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Asimov's 3 Laws ... "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law." Seems logical... just need to decide which of the 2 elephants in the room is more equal to the other one it appears. Meanwhile "surgically precise bomb strikes" remove children's limbs with surgical precision in both Gaza and Israel. What a thoroughly sick species we are.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Friday, 5 April 2024 5:13:35 PM
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ttbn

Where you claim:

"There are rules of law, none of which stipulate just how many civilian deaths are acceptable. Civilians are killed during war. There were 6,000,000,000 Jews alone killed during WW11, not accidentally as in Gaza, but deliberately by the German equivalents of Hamas, their supporters and followers.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 5 April 2024 4:50:52 PM"

Yours is a rather simplistic, glib and dyslexic comment.

No "6,000,000,000 Jews" weren't murdered by the Nazis. That was more people than the population of Earth in 1945.

There are legal rules of war relating to civilian murder including:

- the Fourth Geneva Convention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention Prohibits and defines "indiscriminate attacks" as "incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated." This rule is referred to by scholars as the principle of proportionality."

Now look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Indiscriminate_attacks

"In the first week of the war, the IDF carried out 6,000 airstrikes across Gaza, killing over 3,300 civilians and injuring over 12,000. The strikes hit specifically PROTECTED LOCATIONS, including hospitals, markets, refugee camps, mosques, educational facilities, and entire neighbourhoods.

A group of UN special rapporteurs asserted that Israel's airstrikes are indiscriminate, stating that the airstrikes are "absolutely prohibited under international law and amounts to a war crime"."

Do you know better than UN lawyers?
Posted by Maverick, Friday, 5 April 2024 6:32:47 PM
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Maverick,

Too many zeros. 6 million, as you would know if you didn't have the urge to emit a sarcastic sneer.

Your other comments are just your opinion, with which I obviously disagree.

If you want to use references, at least go to the Convention itself, not the amateurIsh Wikipedia, controlled by a few Leftist twits.

There was no “indiscriminate” attack on those silly enough to enter a war zone. At worst, it was accidental. And, you should know civilians get killed in wars. Bits of paper won't prevent it happening.

Do you have experience of war? No. Of course you don't. Far too naive.

Civilians used as shields; hospitals used to store weaponry have no legal protection.

Your UN leaders were not present; and yes, I do know at least as much as they do, if not more.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 5 April 2024 8:13:30 PM
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"Do you have experience of war?"

Yes. NTK.
Posted by Maverick, Friday, 5 April 2024 9:30:02 PM
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