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Talk of Israel's 'Genocide' is Nonsense
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Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 4 February 2024 10:00:09 AM
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At long last. And about time:
There is a growing rift between the Biden administration and the Netanyahu government over Israel's war in Gaza. Unsurprisingly tensions have grown as the horrific death toll mounts to more than 25,000, 70% of whom are women and children. It's hard to understand that more non-combatants have been killed in less than 4 months in Gaza than in nearly 2 years of war in Ukraine where the civilian death toll only exceeded 10,000. Biden has warned that Israel was losing international support over its "indiscriminate bombing" of Gaza and Biden is pushing for a two-state solution. The situation in Gaza is dire. People are starving. Aid must be given. No ifs and buts. We can't just sit back and watch. The US must take action. The US can't keep arming and financing Israel, and then turn around and ask for restraint. And we can't even begin to imagine what the result will be if Donald Trump gets re-elected as US President Insanity will prevail. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 4 February 2024 10:08:52 AM
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Dear Ttbn,
Israel was due to have municipal elections on October 31st, 2023. They were postponed due to the war, but life must eventually go on and democracy cannot be suspended forever, so now they are due this month, February 27th. Should the situation on Israel(s) fronts indeed be dire enough, then surely Israel will postpone general elections too as required. In practice however, Israel's military position is only getting better, Hamas by now has been significantly decimated, and will be smaller still by elections time. Some IDF reserve brigades have already been released and sent home. Legislation in the Knesset has already passed in first reading and will soon be passed into law, for IDF soldiers in Gaza to be able to vote there despite Gaza not being a part of Israel. Israel is united, Left Right and Center, over the goals of eliminating Hamas and returning the hostages home. That Prime-Minister who is responsible for all this mess, who was asleep on guard on October 7th because he was totally consumed with political manoeuvres, seeing only Israel's Left as his enemy that he failed to notice Israel's external enemies, that incapable prime-minister refuses to leave and so he must be kicked out. The polls show that support for his party was already halved. "Brigadier General David Agmon, Netanyahu's former chief of staff, spoke at the demonstration: "I accuse you, Bibi, of seriously harming Israel's security. From Saturday, October 7, 2023, I no longer accuse, I condemn, I condemn you Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister The illegitimate. I condemn you in the name of 1400 murdered, in the name of 240 kidnapped, in the name of 290 dead soldiers, in the name of 150 thousand displaced in their country, in the name of hundreds of thousands of reservist families, in the name of the entire people of Israel. I blame and condemn you for bringing upon us the most terrible disaster in the history of the State of Israel And in the history of the Jewish people since the Holocaust." - http://newsrnd.com/news/2024-02-03-%22120-days-underground-without-oxygen%22--live-%7C-the-rally-for-the-abductees-in-tel-aviv-israel-today.S1xtW6x35a.html Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 4 February 2024 10:52:24 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
"Do you have such skills?" - No, but I possess at least a small amount of logic and common sense. Re: diver dan comment "It is your kind, however, Christian fundamentalists, who care not for Israel's well-being because they only see Israel as a vehicle for bringing Jesus Christ back as their Messiah... as if they deserve Him..." - I was kind of getting that vibe too, Yuyutsu The 'unconditional Christian support and defense of Israel' thing... I call them all 'Christians4genocide' a made-up group of people - in mockery... based on the stereotype they currently represent. As far as me saying Israel is a sick nation corrupted by the occupation, it was Matti Peled - a General during Israels 6 Day War 1n 1967 that himself said in the 80's that Israel was being corrupted by the occupation and US money. I've seen what many average Israelis are saying and how they are acting... - With genocidal level hatred in their words and actions and with joy and celebration at the other sides suffering - and we're not talking about dead militants we're talking about dead women and kids - non-combatants. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 4 February 2024 11:16:59 AM
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[Cont.] - Diver Dans comment...
I thought "Good little Noahide attacking the self-hating Jew" I think support and defense of Israel is part of a Christians DNA. If a Jew told a Christian to lay on train tracks the Christian would at least consider it. The thing about it though, religions... The Jewish religion is not a religion that treats all people fairly and equally. They want to rule over the non-Jews, and I don't agree with this idea of master and slave. Christians claim to be everything that's good and decent in this world, but they are like Satan's little helpers when it comes to the whole 'Let's try and get an Armageddon started' thing... Right here: 'I hope Jesus returns in my lifetime, I must help the Jew restore Israel, build the temple and bring forth the anti-Christ - then Jesus will come after the tribulation' It must be screwed up being those people right now, trying to figure out how to navigate the right moral path, caught between supporting and defending Israel unconditionally while Israel murders women and kids. They are corrupting their claimed good and moral selves too, defending murder, while Israel is a nation of hatred corrupted by the occupation. - They have to treat the Palestinians as sub-human you see, otherwise they couldn't justify what they are doing. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 4 February 2024 11:18:55 AM
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There won't be any peace until the issue of border is settled one way or the other, either 2 state solution or Palestinians ethnically cleansed from the land entirely. It's a vicious cycle that cannot be broken. An unwinnable war in which the flames are constantly stoked. The current status quo ensures that Palestinians will continue to resist, with the continued taking of land. And that Israel will collectively punish this resistance treating those people as terrorists with a brutal response, which only further entrenches the will TO resist. All these people are dying needlessly because the civilized world wont face ugly facts, that powerful people have an interest in seeing the conflict continue until goals have been met. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 4 February 2024 11:25:14 AM
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What a jolly good idea! Let's have an election amidst a war to protect these nitwits from Hamas - terrorists who really do favour genocide!