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Talk of Israel's 'Genocide' is Nonsense
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 12:16:15 AM
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I just want people to be able to live in peace, have a family and happy constructive fulfilling and dignified lives without being bombed to pieces or having the decisions of foreigners imposed upon them.
- And I say that without any prejudice to either side. If America wasn't trying to sanction, undermine and overthrow other countries leaders in a zero-sum global conquest game (an innocents weren't suffering because of it), I wouldn't be opposed to what they do. I think nation to nation relations should be based on mutual respect (not one side issuing directives to what it considers its subordinates), the same as people to people relations should be based on mutual respect. It's the same reason why I don't like the Jewish religions aims to rule of all other nations in a religious theocracy. - But that argument carries equally for Islam. I think the Palestinians should have their own state, and an opportunity to improve their lots and live in peace as well. To say that the deaths of innocents is unavoidable, is to make the same argument that conflict is unavoidable. Conflict CAN be avoided if both sides sit down like adults and work out their differences without raising the stakes to a level where innocent people are being blown to bits. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 10:22:23 AM
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Antisemitism and all other hatreds have no place in this country.
Armchair Critic promotes all the lies and old tropes against Jews. There are many fact check sites online, however, those like AC are so embedded against Jews that he would never access them. Also if as he says Jews control the world of over 8 billion people and they just number 15 million. WoW!! But we all know AC's hampster is dead, in fact, quite putrid. We have a new antisemite on the line. Soap Box is intent of inciting hatred against Jews. Thankfully ASIO, under the National Security Legislation Amendment Bill of 2014 can access networks of all internet services and networks of all computers. Undoubtedly Soap Box has not escaped their radar. Posted by WhiteMouse, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 1:16:42 PM
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Armchair Critic,
I suspect you have problems taking in information. Palestinians have been offered their own state numerous times. The first time they were offer 80% of the territory, Israel agreed to accept 20%. The Palestinians refused. Yet offer were made again and again. 5 times in the past Palestinians rejected offer to have their own state. africachinapresscentre.org Perhaps their is some factor why Palestinians act this way. Perhaps they feel they are better served being under the auspices of Israel. I would like to see Palestinian documents from that time. I am sure they would be enlightening. Posted by WhiteMouse, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 1:24:38 PM
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Dear Critic,
I cannot deny that there are some despicable people in Israel and its government who have genocidal attitudes, but this is not what the Israeli army is ordered to do - I thought it may interest you to read today's missive of the IDF chief of staff to his troops. “We act like human beings and, unlike our enemy, maintain our humanity. We must be careful not to use force where it is not required, to distinguish between a terrorist and those who are not, not to take anything that is not ours — a souvenir or weapons — and not to film revenge videos,... We are not on a killing spree, revenge, or genocide. We have come to win and defeat a cruel enemy, who deserves a bitter loss” http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-chief-in-message-to-troops-unlike-our-enemy-we-maintain-our-humanity/ Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 11:22:09 PM
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You know what sickens me more than anything I've seen since October 7.
People like you Whitemouse, you're scum of the earth. And I'm going to tell you why. You see people like you come out all gung-ho with a big mouth. - But I haven't just been buying into 'tropes'. You see that's what someone like you says, when they want to criticise someone like me, who criticises Israel. The problem is I don't just read the news, no. I've seen all the footage, even shared it ALL on the FORUM People assassinated in the street, women and kids. Kids with their brains blown out and blood spurting all over the wall. I've heard the testimonies about executions from the IDF soldiers I've seen the Israeli kids taught to hate, 3 year olds whose first sentences they're taught are 'When I grow up I'm going to be a soldier and kill the Arabs' Murdering and executing people for the last 80 years. Raping them so they become informants Bragging about killing Palestinians on social media Shooting kids for throwing rocks. Running over people with tanks. Burning them, putting them in cages Mocking and demeaning them. Tipping feces and urine on them. Using them for organ harvesting. Cutting off their food water and electricity. Dropping smart bombs on the most populated civilian areas on earth. Words of hate from the government and the people Assassinating journalists, doctors, paramedics Holding people in prisons indefinitely without charge torturing people Making Palestinians sing the Israeli national anthem Stripping people to take their dignity. This isn't even close to the tip of the iceberg. And what's all about? - Stealing Land, that's it. People like you say I'm the bad person for daring to speak against it. Well it's you that defends murder and genocide You're WORSE than the people who commit these things. I support humanity, you defend and justify the most heinous atrocities committed in the last half century. This is by far the most disgusting example of human behavior that I've ever seen in my life. - People like you. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 11:42:33 PM
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«ICJ opens historic hearings into Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories»
I wish them every success and so pray about half of the Israelis.
It's not that the "Palestinians" are right and innocent, it's not that they really want independence or to live in peace - they do not: their leaders even prefer that Israel continues to harass, displace and sometimes even kill, the ordinary "Palestinians", so that they can continue to blame and fight Israel until it disappears completely - they do not want their own people to be happy - they prefer them to become miserable martyrs.
Nevertheless, Israel fell into that trap and does exactly what these "Palestinian" leaders expect it to do: it has given free reign in the West Bank to a bloody gang of land-greedy terrorist Messianic Jews.
Please help the good Israelis rid themselves of that terror and the burden of Israel's occupied territories!
Just please, please, don't throw out the baby with the dirty bath-water.