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Talk of Israel's 'Genocide' is Nonsense

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And FYI, my family has been in this country since the 1810's and I also have indigenous in me.
My Great Grandfather won a Distinguished Service Order as a 1st Australian Lighthorseman taking that land from the Ottomans, it was even called the second battle of GAZA, and he fought alongside Palestinians.
The others know I'm not lying.
He didn't do that so that others could stain it with the blood of innocents for eternity,
So as far as I'm concerned, my ANZAC forefathers (and others in this country, both before and after) already fought for my right to say whatever the feck I want in those county, especially so on this topic, long before Jews came here trying to escape Europe and Hitler.
You don't get to tell me jack shite.
So you can just go feck yourself.

I've already argued every argument the Pro-Israel side has come up with previously.
- And left them with no moral leg to stand on every single time, so I'm not going to bother doing it again for you.

Why don't you buy a ticket to Israel, go kill some Palestinian women and kids, and bloody well stay there.
- Don't come back, you belong with them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 11:51:10 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

“We act like human beings and, unlike our enemy, maintain our humanity. We must be careful not to use force where it is not required, to distinguish between a terrorist and those who are not, not to take anything that is not ours — a souvenir or weapons — and not to film revenge videos,... We are not on a killing spree, revenge, or genocide. We have come to win and defeat a cruel enemy, who deserves a bitter loss”

I'd like to believe this is genuine, but I just find it hard to do so.
Are they not just empty words?
I feel like it's more to do with ICJ than a genuine internal will to act in a righteous or ethical manner.
- All I've seen is internal hate.

Like I told you a week or so back:
Saying 'Israel is the most moral army in the world' doesn't necessarily make it true.
I've seen the assassinations of women and kids.

I'm wondering now whether or not WhiteMouse was the poster a while back that said he was inside a theatre when it was attacked by Palestinian militants.
If so, I guess I can understand him feeling strongly about things, but I'm not saying sorry.
Maybe he should understand others also feel strongly against what Israel is doing.

And even if he was a first-hand witness to Palestinian atrocities, Maybe it's about time he realised that what happened there was a response for something Israel had done to the Palestinians, previously and the cycle of violence just goes on and and on forever...

And it's going to keep going on, more Israelis will become victims or witnesses to more atrocities until these people get their own state.
It's Israel that created this situation and prevents them having their own state, so it should not complain when the oppressed rise up.
- Beyond that, I denounce all violence against non-combatants.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:27:26 AM
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You know what I think Yuyutsu?
You're right you know about taking that land post 1967.
Israel has brought all hell down on itself taking it.
It's found itself in a predicament where if it continues on the course it's on it will result in being the cause of it's own destruction.

Israel is not going to give the land it took back, and the Palestinians are not going to stop resisting and fighting because of it.
It worked well, doing what you were doing in the past
- But now we're in an age of drone warfare.
Even the Houthi can hit Tel Aviv with missiles.

This attitude of bringing all hell and retribution down upon the Palestinians whenever they act out against the oppression they've already been placed under is going to be the end of Israel.
- I say this with no malice against you or your family in Israel.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:52:22 AM
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Dear Critic,

«Israel is not going to give the land it took back, and the Palestinians are not going to stop resisting and fighting because of it.»

Yes, the fish is not going to give the fishing-line back and the fisherman is not going to stop resisting and fighting... not because they want their dear fishing-line back, but because they want the fish!

In 1967, Israel fell for that trap of land - hook, line, and sinker!

While you in Australia feel sorry for every innocent person losing their lives, the "leaders" of both sides are very happy about the situation, they cry outwardly and smile inwardly whenever their people are killed - that serves their only purpose, to prolong their rule.

And apart from the leaders, yes there are also groups of dangerous fanatics on both sides, only about 10%, who unlike both their cynical leaders and the majority of the people, are actually brainwashed to believe that God ordered them to grab all the land. The leaders are happy to use their services too.

«Saying 'Israel is the most moral army in the world' doesn't necessarily make it true.
I've seen the assassinations of women and kids.»

Unlike professional armies, the IDF is comprised of Israelis from all walks of life.
While most soldiers obey their orders, the above 10% use being called to the army as an opportunity to forward their own agenda. A few others also use being called to the army as an opportunity to satisfy their own private sadism.

The difference between the IDF and other armies, is that whenever such soldiers are caught, they are immediately dismissed and in the more severe cases are arrested and brought to justice.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 5:16:49 AM
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I would not normally respond to rubbish a RAT might post about me but this attempted silencing through intimidation is too much.

We have a new antisemite on the line. Soap Box is intent of inciting hatred against Jews. Thankfully ASIO, under the National Security Legislation Amendment Bill of 2014 can access networks of all internet services and networks of all computers. Undoubtedly Soap Box has not escaped their radar. OH GOD, THIS JERK OFF KNOWS BIG BROTHER AND THE SECRET POLICE! Well I'm shaking in my boots, was that a knock on the door, no just the RAT running up a drain pipe?

Fella, do you know what RATS do a lot of, you are full of it.

Hi Armchair Critic, well said, and don't be intimidated by some fool RAT on here trying to big note itself.
Posted by Soap Box, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 5:11:56 PM
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There have been Jewish settlers in Australia since the early 1800's the Synagogue in Hobart dates then.

The famous General Sir John Monash, GCMG, KCB, VD was a Jew.
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Muslim cameleers to whom we owe a great debt settled in Australia in the 1860's.

The Australian Human Rights Commission states "We condemn people who incite racial hatred"

Australia is one of the most successful multicultural countries in the world.

AUSTRALIA'S MULTICULTURAL STATEMENT.

Australians look like every face, every race, every background. We define ourselves and our nation by our commitment to shared political values, democracy, freedom and use of law.

We are as old as our First Australians and yet we are as young as the baby in the arms of her migrant mother, who could have come from any nation, any faith, any race. We are an immigrant nation.

Lack of mutual respect and racism is incompatible with Australian society.

Australia owes its accomplishments to the contributions of more than 300 different ancestries from the First Australians to the newest arrivals.

Australian values - equality of men and women, commitment to freedom-
support of freedom of thought, speech, religion, religious enterprise and association.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Sunday, 25 February 2024 6:06:13 PM
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