When the Hamas fanboys on OLO try and whitewash the Hamas animals these are the vicious killers they are supporting-

From a victim of the Hamas brutality:

"First, that of the young woman hiding next to him under the stage of the Supernova festival where he had been dancing to electronic music as the sun rose on October 7 and Hamas militants opened fire.

“She fell to the ground, shot in the head, and I pulled her body over me and smeared her blood on me so it would look as if I was dead too,” he said. “I will never forget her face. Every night I wake to it and apologise to her, saying ‘I’m sorry’.”

After an hour, he peeked out. “I saw this beautiful woman with the face of an angel and eight or ten of the fighters beating and raping her. She was screaming, ‘Stop it - already I’m going to die anyway from what you are doing, just kill me!’ When they finished they were laughing and the last one shot her in the head.

“I kept thinking it could have been one of my daughters,” added the father of four. “Or my sister - I had bought her a ticket but last minute she couldn’t come.”

The horror did not end there. Hiding in bushes, he saw two more Hamas fighters. “They had caught a young woman near a car and she was fighting back, not allowing them to strip her. They threw her to the ground and one of the terrorists took a shovel and beheaded her and her head rolled along the ground. I see that head too,” he says."

"Rather, it seems they've been shown kindness
- And treated like family, or honoured guests."

Wow, your credulity knows no bounds, does it? They were told to wave to their captors for the cameras. I read an article that opined that Hamas wasn't really doing these stage-managed joyful hand-overs for western opinion but more for sympathetic arab opinion. They thought westerns wouldn't fall for it. I guess they haven't come across the likes of AC!!

SR,

This isn't a game of tag. This is life and death and the case of the Israelis, life and death for the nation. Its not a question of who got in the first blow or rooting for one side or t'other. Its a case of understanding why the Israelis and their Arab supporters see the necessity of eradicating Hamas from the planet or at least from anything approaching power in any state near Israel.

Israel always 'mowed the grass' in response to Hamas's attacks. But this is a different order of magnitude and the grass has to be ripped up.

Dear Critic,

I hope you are just being cynically kidding now.

I constantly watch the stories and videos of the returned hostages.

Some of the hostages were already known to have been killed, some of their bodies were even recovered by Israeli troops, but now through the reports of the returned hostages, the death of another 6 hostages they met in Gaza was ascertained and the information passed to their families.

86 years old Arieh Zalmanovitz, had health problems, used to receive many medications and had a restricted diet. He could not eat fava beans, humus or spiced rice, which is what they got, so he lived only on biscuits and tea and died of starvation.

56 years old Mia Goren, mother of 4, was murdered in captivity. Her husband was already known to been murdered on October 7th. She was a renown kindergarten teacher and helped several other hostages in her captivity.

54 years old Ronen Engel, a photographer and paramedic, was murdered in captivity. His wife and two children were released.

75 years old Eliyahu Margalit was murdered in captivity. He was taken hostage when he fed the Kibbutz's horses. The horses were also taken with him. His daughter was also captured, then released.

70 years old Ofra Keidar was murdered in captivity. She was captured while taking her morning walk. Her husband was also murdered on October 7th.

26 years old Guy Iluz, a sound-technician and guitarist who attended the doomed rave party and was captured hiding up a tree, was murdered in captivity.

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Of the surviving:

84 years old Ditsah Heiman reported increasing hunger.
45 years old Danial Aloni, mother of 6 years old Emilia, reported that her daughter was forced to view horror movies which make even adults tremble. They had no day/night schedule or anything, nothing to do but sleep or cry.
85 years old Yocheved Lifshitz, who was released after only 17 days in captivity, reported inadequate food, sleep deprivation and dwindling oxygen levels. She was released early because she got ill and Hamas were afraid that she might infect them as well.
A group of hostages held together reported sleeping on improvised benches made of plastic chairs or on the floor, having irregular food, mainly bread and rice, no fruit, vegetables or eggs, and that when they wanted to use the toilet they had to knock and wait up to two hours.
All that time they saw no daylight, had no shower and no change of clothes until close to their release.
Moran Stella Yanai broke her leg when kidnapped, received no adequate treatment and was therefore infected with fever. She had little food or even water and no place to sleep. She lost much weight and still cannot stand on her foot.
9 year old Emily Hand was constantly threatened to keep quiet, so she still can only whisper.
12 years old Eitan Yahalomi was also forced to watch the horror movie with other children. When any of them cried, they were threatened with a gun to keep quiet. Eitan was in solitary confinement for his first 16 days.
9 years old Ohad Mund was beaten by Gazan civilians.
Children were branded on the leg with exhaust pipes to prevent their escape.

And I don't need to remind you about Elma Avraham, right?

A partial list is here: http://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/children-taken-hostage-by-hamas-branded-with-a-burn-mark-lest-they-escape-family-says

Hey SM,
And this goes equally for you too mhaze.

I denounced the killings on both sides.
The difference between you two and I is that you two ONLY want to see the Israeli victims, but pretend like there isn't some 15 to 20 thousand other victims including 8200 dead kids.

You may turn a blind eye to this but I wont.
And when I have to constantly listen to the likes of you pair whitewashing all these dead women and kids, all the while seeing imagery of more people killed and oppressed, it pisses me off and pushes me more towards the other side.

Hi Yuyutsu,
Maybe I'm not seeing the full picture here, some of the twitter sources I look at are certainly biased, and they are only going to show things that suit their narrative, but I have seen many videos of hostages that seem friendly enough with their captors, but no videos to the contrary.

I have also seen videos of angry Israelis saying the hostages should be silenced and their families should be threatened for speaking out after being returned.

Also we have the Hannibal doctrine, which I think states that Israel would rather have potential hostages killed rather than used against them.

And then we have the thousands and thousands of Palestinian hostages, held without charge, an entire people lived their entire lives under duress in concentration camps, subjugated while Israelis live the good life on the other side of the fence and keep stealing more land.

I'm trying to look at the whole picture and be as realistic as I can be, Palestinians do have a right to resist occupation.

This sums up the left's case

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAYCK4QaoAAGMdi?format=jpg&name=medium