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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Dear Foxy,

« Having a temporary ceasefire - only
to continue it once again - is inhumane. And it is a
war crime - and should be condemned as such.»

How about refusing to release the remaining hostage women, preparing 10 of them for a release the day before then telling them that they are going to stay?

There will be no ceasefire without the release of the remaining hostages:
Israel published yesterday the names of 6 more hostages, including two women, that were verified to be either killed in captivity or died there of hunger.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 3 December 2023 9:16:37 AM
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Yuyutsu,

Hamas has threatened to stop releasing hostages
because Israel has not allowed humanitarian aid
to reach the Northern Gaza strip.

How about Israel doing that?

A bit one-sided isn't it?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 December 2023 9:27:30 AM
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This 4 minute video probably lays things out as well as anyone possibly could.
It's a must watch.

http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1727820017918693735

SM,

"You defend the child-murdering Hamas which makes you a disgusting pig."

No you got that wrong, I defend the right of Palestinians to resist a murderous occupation that has gone on for 75 years.
And you can all call me Anti-Semite if you want, I'll take it as a compliment and wear it as a badge of honour.
If I have to be persecuted to defend the lives of the innocent, then so be it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 3 December 2023 10:18:49 AM
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Hi Foxy,
I've come to realise that the 'Israeli narrative' shown to us is all merely projection.
Every single thing that has been shown to us to portray the Israeli people as good decent people and the Palestinians evil animals is completely misrepresented.

Everything Israel says is being done to them, they themselves are doing to the Palestinians, and worse.

You should all take the time to go through the content on this thread.
It would take a few hours to see all the content going back to Oct 7, but it's worth it to see the bigger picture.
You will see and learn more than one really cares to know.
It's actually really quite sad, and I don't think any person with a heart and a soul could ignore it.

I'm now convinced that the real animals are on the Israeli side.
Those who commit the Zionist crimes, and those who defend them.

I don't care what anyone says about me.
Those people are just lying to themselves, biased or incredibly evil.

http://twitter.com/Partisangirl
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 3 December 2023 10:41:15 AM
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I'd hate to be those pro-Israel members of the forum.
They have the impossible task of trying to defend the indefensible.

8200 children killed in 2 months, yet those forum members still try.
Israel is a terrorist state.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 3 December 2023 12:00:28 PM
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At the recent Arab summit, there was a push for a 4 point joint statement:

(1) cut of military equipment supplies to Israel from U.S. bases Arab countries.

(2) freezing of diplomatic relations with Israel.

(3) oil embargo similar to 1973

(4) close airspace to Israeli planes

The proposal was rejected based on opposition from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Bahrain, Sudan, Egypt and Jordan. NB(Egypt and Jordan).

It is further reported that these nations are privately urging Israel to finish the job against Hamas. Those of us interested in the truth will remember that, early on, Egypt moved military to their border with Gaza, Not to stop Israel but to stop Hamas breaking out into Egyptian territory. Egypt wants nothing to do with Hamas.

Equally Jordan, who had to declare war on the Palestinians in the 1970s to rid themselves of that scourge, are anxious that Israel destroy Hamas.

Hamas is of course controlled by Iran who are the enemies of the gulf states, primarily the Saudis. Which is why the Saudis in particular are urging Israel, privately, to do the world a favour and finish Hamas.

One commentator said that none of this should come as a surprise to anyone who has followed and understood middle-eastern politics over the last decade. So I'm guessing AC and Foxy are completely surprised!!

Of course, AC will be able to dredge up any number of twitter quotes about what the Saudi and Egyptians have said on the record. But in international affairs what is said publicly doesn't always concur with what is said privately. What matters is what actions are taken and given that the countries mentioned above aren't advocating any action, it ought to be clear that they are supporting Israel's efforts to remove the Iranian proxies.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 December 2023 12:07:07 PM
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