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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Dear SteeleRedux,

«It is interesting to see them being referred to as "terrorists" by fellow Israelis.»

"Fellow" is an insult!

They are referred to as "terrorists" because that is what they are!

These settlers not only bring shame and censor on Israel, they also bring wars and massacres of innocents like October the 7th. If not for them there's a high chance there could have been peace there already. They are Hamas' best allies and I wouldn't be surprised if they are also coordinated.

One detail somehow omitted from the following:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/world/middleeast/26settlers.html

Is that the Israeli army was ordered to vacate that venomous outpost of Yitzhar:
These Jewish terrorists then told the brigadier who headed the force that came to evacuate them, "We know where your boy's kindergarten is, we know exactly the route he arrives there and back". That is how the great IDF failed in its mission and the outpost was not vacated.

3 soldiers were wounded and many military vehicles sabotaged and damaged in that incident.

The Israeli army is afraid of these terrorists even more than it is afraid of Hamas or Hezbollah, especially now when they are represented and backed by a Nazi minister in Israel's government.

In contrast, here is someone I commend and can gladly refer to as a friend and "fellow Israeli":
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/mansour-abbas-calls-on-armed-palestinian-factions-to-throw-down-their-weapons-work-with-pa-to-establish-state/
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 2 December 2023 11:02:28 PM
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Baldrick,

You defend the child-murdering Hamas which makes you a disgusting pig. Hamas started this war with an act of depravity, debauchery and murder. Everything that follows is their fault. That you could support them is appalling.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 3 December 2023 4:07:56 AM
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The war has again fired up, with indiscriminate shelling of Gaza by Zionist terrorist squads, killing around 200 innocent non-combatants, including women and children, retaliatory rockets fired by Hamas at innocent Israelis. Zionist action condoned by several posters here from the safety of their keyboards in far off Australia. Why do YOU people always support war, but always avoid active participation yourselves, leave it to the suckers, ah! Just as your great folk hero 'Pig Iron' Bob supported WWI but refused to enlist, and Little Johnny Howard, a great advocate for the Vietnam War, but dodged conscription!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 December 2023 5:14:16 AM
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"The war has again fired up, with indiscriminate shelling of Gaza by Zionist terrorist squads, killing around 200 innocent non-combatants, including women and children, retaliatory rockets fired by Hamas at innocent Israelis. "

Actually the war 'fired up' when Hamas sent rockets into Israel and unleashed shooters into the heart of Jerusalem.

But we are talking about Paul here, so facts be damned.

"Little Johnny Howard, a great advocate for the Vietnam War, but dodged conscription!"

Conscription was introduced in 1966 and applied to people who were 20 years old. Howard was already in his late 20's by then. So he didn't 'dodge' conscription...he was ineligible for it.

But we are talking about Paul here, so facts be damned
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 December 2023 7:58:49 AM
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Activists have gathered outside the White House and
are calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. They read the
names of innocent people killed in the war. But they
barely got through a fraction of the more that 15,000
names they had in front of them. And the numbers are
certain to rise.

What Hamas did on October 7th was despicable. However
" How many lives will be enough?"

The continued bombing of innocent people is repugnant.
And needs to stop. Having a temporary ceasefire - only
to continue it once again - is inhumane. And it is a
war crime - and should be condemned as such.

People around the world are condemning the current actions.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 December 2023 8:24:31 AM
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Dear Paul,

«with indiscriminate shelling of Gaza by Zionist terrorist squads»

There are no Zionist terrorist squads - Zionism ended when Israel was established.
Still speaking of "Zionism" 75 years later simply indicates that you do not accept the existence of Israel, the country where my family was born and lives.

As for terrorist squads, yes, regrettably like the Muslim terrorism squads of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, there also are JEWISH terrorist squads, but they are not Zionist and they operate in the West Bank, not in Gaza. I do abhor them just as well. Only today they murdered a local Arab villager, wounded three, burned down a house and a car and damaged others. I do hope that instead of wasting precious court time on them, then jailing them at the expense of the Israeli tax-payer, Israel just parachutes them into Southern Gaza to meet their lovely friends from the Hamas!

As for "indiscriminate shelling", any other army faced by such terrorists that store rockets, explosive traps and other weapons everywhere, including in childrens' bedrooms, in mosques, kindergartens, hospitals and under a crate inside UNWRA relief camps (dozens of Grad rockets discovered there last night), would simply douse petrol over the whole of the Gaza strip and neatly burn the whole place down: under the circumstances, Israel is being too merciful and pays for it with the lives of its young soldiers.

«killing around 200 innocent non-combatants, including women and children»

The women and children may perhaps be innocent, but when their husband/father hides grenades among his child's toys and rockets under his wife's bed, such consequences are inevitable, and these numbers are far far less then what they could be if any other army had to do that dirty job of saving the world, as well as the local victims, from a horrendous ISIS-like terrorist organisation.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 3 December 2023 9:08:55 AM
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