Ahhhh.... Professor Ilan Pappe. The go to 'historian' for those who prefer the warm inner glow to the facts.

As one commentator said of Pappe, "At best, Ilan Pappe must be one of the world’s sloppiest historians; at worst, one of the most dishonest. In truth, he probably merits a place somewhere between the two."

Fabricated quotes, deliberate mistranslations. Distortions abound. But he tells those of a certain leaning what they want to hear and nobody ever went broke telling the left what it wants to hear.

Meanwhile even Pappe doesn't dispute the reasons why Palestinians are unwelcome in other Muslim nations.

"Yet precious few of the Hamas cheer-squad here or elsewhere have found even one word of compassion for those murdered."

Keyword here is 'context'.

I'm not a follower of Islam so don't assume I support Hamas.

I do however recognise that Palestinians have their own right to self defense.
Israel should state it's bloody borders and stop taking land!
UNSC Resolution 2334 was passed in December 2016 by 14 votes to zero, condemning 'the construction and expansion of settlements'.

Just about everyone on this forum supports Ukraine's right to self defense, those same people do not recognise Palestinians also have this right to defend their territory.

When this first happened I saw the images of dead Israeli middle aged women piled on top of each other at a bustop dressed nicely for Yom Kippur, and I was disturbed by it and denounced it.

And many times I have openly stated I do not support the killing of innocent people, non combatants, but that IDF are legitimate targets.
They are there helping settlers to run Palestinians off the land, with the approval of the government, so neither the IDF or the Israeli government are innocent.

What about in 2018 - 2019, Great March of Return.
Israel killed 223 Palestinians for simply 'approaching' the border fence, not even crossing it.
Put this in perspective.
What if I'm your neighbour and I told you if you 'If you come within 2 metres of the fence that marks the property line, I will shoot you dead.
Does that sound fair and reasonable? No.

You want me to be upset about the innocent Israeli's killed.
I was and I told you all how my feelings would change if Israel kept murdering innocent Palestinians in revenge.

You want me to be emotionally distraught by up close and personal murder of Israelis, but you think killing thousands from afar with missiles and bombs is somehow less confronting.

Israel will end up turning this thing into a wider conflict with Islamic middle eastern nations banding together and coming down upon them.

UNSC Resolution 2334 has nothing to do with Gaza. So totally irrelevant.

We need to look at who's doing the criticism of Prof.
Ilan Pappe and why.

The criticism is not surprising given that
Professor Pappe's work has sought to challenge
the accepted truths of a divided land and led to him
being forced to resign from the University of Haifa
in 2007.

The noted Israeli academic show now teaches at Exeter
University in the United Kingdom presents the history of
Israel in a way that encompasses the narrative of the
Palestinian people. A bold ambition in a society in
which militarism, nationalism, and religion are potent
unifying forces.

Praise for Pappe comes from a variety of people.

Here's just a few:

"Along with Edward Said, Ilan Pappe is the most eloquent
writer of Palestinian history."( New Statesman)

" One of the most prominent Israeli political dissidents
living in exile. He is also one of the few Israli academics
of the conflict who writes about the Palestinian side with
real knowledge and empathy."

He is an outspoken Israeli historian who examines the most
contested ideas concerning the origins and identity of the
contemporary state of Israel.

"UNSC Resolution 2334 has nothing to do with Gaza. So totally irrelevant."

Lol, There's no Israeli settlements in Gaza you fool.

For anyone else who's interested in the resolution:
http://www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdf
- Even the US abstained on this one.

And here:
Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity, Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law, Security Council Reaffirms
http://press.un.org/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

Or you can ignore that and support Israels land theft...
But don't whinge when enraged Palestinians murder Israelis.
This is a case of FAFO

[Feck Around and Find Out, abbreviated as FAFO, is a slang catchphrase warning that taking negative steps will result in unwanted consequences.]

Israel can't have it's cake and eat it too.

'Play stupid games, win stupid prizes'

'Reap what you sow'

Hi Special Delivery,
"France and England have been running backwards and forwards to Israel during the Gaza fiasco so as to cover their backsides should what can be revealed is revealed to the general public.
If a nuclear explosion goes off in the ME it's down to France and UK"

They had better nuke Erdogan if they do, otherwise he'll get a nuke from Pakistan or build his own using enriched uranium from Iran.
Erdogan is the de-facto leader of Sunni Islam, (Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood sect of Sunni Islam)
Even without a nuke Erdogan can assemble 2 million man army in a few months if need be, and he openly supports Hamas and considers Israel a terrorist state.