"If Israel has these people under occupation...."

There's the rub. They don't have these people under occupation. That's your error and all your other errors flow from that.

"Of course Cardinal Pell was innocent. Of course
Donald Trump made America great. Of course President
Biden molested his daughter. "

Foxy, there's no need for you to regurgitate all your past errors. We all remember them.

SR is determined to skip the issue of murders on 7/10 by talking about utterly unrelated subjects. Hastie was shown footage of a family destroyed by the Gazan barbarians and it moved him, a hardened military man, to tears.

But AC, Foxy, SR and all the other Gazan cheer-squad are determined to blame the victims for the atrocities perpetrated on them. And they are determined to demand that Israel submit itself to continued and ongoing further atrocities without resistance.


And they don't care how much truth they have to ignore to do it.

'Not under occupation'
- what because mhaze declares it so?

Is that what I said mhaze?

'If Israel has these people under occupation (after taking the land by force), holds all the cards when it comes to food and water, shoots them for even approaching the border fence, has settlers attack them, destroy their olive groves and livelihoods, continues to run them off the land, bulldoze their homes and kidnaps and holds them in indefinite detention without charge, and messes with them going to the Al-Aqsa Mosque... '

Watch out for that big pile of shite... Awww!! you stepped in it again. derp.
You're either misinformed or just plain stupid mentioning 'the truth'...
The maps and the facts tell the story peabrain.

Oh and btw, Israel's ground offensive isn't going so well in Gaza - hundreds of dead IDF and even Hezbollah has destroyed an entire Israeli military base.

http://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1727378348366807412
http://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1726555238696644824

Netanyahu said there would be no ceasefire
He said they would not release Palastinians from Israeli prisons
- Yet both of those things have happened.
Why? because things aren't going so well on the ground.
It's easy to fire missiles from an F35 though.

"And they are determined to demand that Israel submit itself to continued and ongoing further atrocities without resistance."
- No, that's just what Israel risks if it doesn't change its tune.
Actions have consequences.

Plenty more Hamas and antisemitism to go around now, plus a large majority of the world is against Israel.
Almost everyday I'm hearing someone on the TV talking about a huge increase in Anti-Semitism.
(Basically just angry people criticising Israel committing mass murder)
- Well they can contact the Israeli embassy and have someone talk to Bibi about that, though I will denounce any call for violence here in Australia.

Palestinians might be dying in droves, but team Israel isn't exactly winning,
- unless winning the worlds animosity for killing innocent people is something to be proud about; and diaspora Jews scared to go outside...
But this is the path Israels hard right government chose.

Might be a little bit of stockholm syndrome here

http://twitter.com/Media_Tak1/status/1728577852684263809
"First time I see hostages are bidding farewell to their kidnappers so happily as if they’re saying bye to family members- what is happening, Israel"

Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are Right to Resist"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkxJd88xkBU

Hi AC,

The YouTube is a shock, the parallels between the actions of the Nazi's and the German army in places like Poland in the 1940's, and the actions of the Zionist and the Israeli army in Palatine today are remarkably similar.

Paul, you vicious Anti-Semite... You should be ashamed.
- May as well get in first before the others do.

Speaking of Nazis...
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Nazi_Israel.svg

Other forum members will probably start throwing conniption fits
- Acting like I personally made that flag and I personally wave it around to incite hatred. [rolls eyes]

May as well get my own response in ahead of time as well.
My response to them: 'If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...'
- And if the shoe fits wear it people, don't complain. OWN IT.

Not our fault what a former member of the IDF himself says about his job.
- Bit of an eye opener though.

Dear Critic,

I don't know whether Israel is winning or not,
all I know is that if Israel loses then there will be no Israel and my family there will all be dead.

Both myself and my family in Israel fervently disagree with many of Israel's government's policies, yet nearly every Israeli agrees, including the most Leftists and Greens among them, that this war to destroy Hamas and return the hostages home, is an absolute necessity, even if hundreds or thousands or millions of Israeli soldiers have to die as a result. There is simply no other choice.

You spoke earlier about this crisis not occuring in a vacuum.

True, but neither Netanyahu and his anti-democratic Nazi gang came to power in a vacuum. It was Arab terror to begin with which brought them to power, it was the bombs in buses, restaurants and schools which caused Israelis to despair of peace, which caused many peace-loving Israelis to emigrate, whoever could afford to, which decimated Israel's peace camp and left Israel in the dirty hands of these Nazis.

You should feel ashamed of the indiscriminate attack on ALL Israelis - physically by Hamas and verbally by yourself, this bundling of all Israelis in one package, the guilty and the innocent alike, as if peaceful Israelis haven't suffered enough at the hands Netanyahu and his Nazis that they must now suffer this humiliation by you as well.

Just remember, Hamas murdered peace activists too: http://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/20/vivian_silver