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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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"This video from the BBC verify also casts doubts on the Hospital weaponry stashes which seem to grow through the day."

My goodness. The illustrious BBC. Reuters published a story about the IDF sending teams of medics with Arabic interpreters. The BBC reported the story as the IDF targeting medical teams and Arabic interpreters. Must have been the work of one of their Jew hating reporters.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bbc-apologizes-after-false-claim-idf-targeting-medical-staff-arabic-speakers-in-gaza/
Posted by Fester, Friday, 17 November 2023 4:47:09 PM
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Dear Fester,

«I wish the IDF success and safety in showing the world how Hamas has been using human shields and hospitals to protect their Jew murdering terrorist organisation.»

I also wish the IDF success and safety.

However, Hamas is not specifically a "Jew murdering terrorist organisation": they murder anyone they can when it suits their desires, including their own, not just Jews. They just murdered non-Jewish Israelis and foreign Asian workers without even asking about their religion or ethnicity, that includes Muslim-Arab-Israelis, who perhaps could recite the Quran better than themselves.

From the very start of this Middle-Eastern conflict, Arabs did not turn against the Zionists who settled the land because they were Jewish - they turned against them because they brought with them social progress, which threatened their medieval conservative patriarchal customs and could loosen their grip on their women and give them equal status as the men. These same Arabs had no issue with the old-style Jews that lived in Jerusalem, Safed and Tiberias, because these were no less conservative than themselves.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 November 2023 5:12:26 PM
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Dear Fester,

Bloody hell mate, you really are sticking to the script aren't you.

As has been pointed out the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag signify from the river to the sea.

Israel is a self avowed Jewish state.

Israel has systematically sealed 2 million Palestinians into a small section of land in the country's SW. It is in the process of incrementally doing the same to the 3 million Palestinians living in the West Bank, pushing them into smaller and smaller enclaves. It is doing this through terror, subjugation, land theft, settler violence and strict controls.

It is a state built on terrorism, existing via deploying terror, and will continue to do so while supported by sycophants like yourself.

Give yourself a big pat on the back.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 17 November 2023 5:30:32 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

Good points. It is nice to see someone without a "them and us" perspective. The only thing I think wrong with Israel is the inequality created with special recognition for Jewish citizens. The irony is that some of the people here who would share that criticism were also supporters of the Voice.

I think it a very mixed up world.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 17 November 2023 5:48:39 PM
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Stoollicker,

You are starting to sound like a flat earther by simply denying the facts you don't like. Even the UN admits that Hamas uses schools and hospitals as cover. It has been an open secret for years.

That the pile of weapons is growing as Israelis search the premises is no surprise, nor that tunnels have more than one entrance.

The high number of civilian casualties is because Hamas uses civilians as human shields.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 18 November 2023 4:23:12 AM
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"U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said Tuesday during a press briefing that the White House sees plenty of open-source reporting about Hamas' use of hospitals and other civilian infrastructure to store weapons and house fighters, adding he was "not in a position to speak specifically to a report about a specific hospital or bunker."

White House spokesman John Kirby was more adamant about U.S. intelligence, however.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control node" and probably to store weapons, Kirby said on Tuesday. "That is a war crime."
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 18 November 2023 6:56:32 AM
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