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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 November 2023 8:37:46 AM
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For all the people who use the words 'Anti-Semite' and 'Jew hater'.
I wish it would be their friends, families, parents, children being bombed. Then their would be a cost to their tacit support of what we see happening. Scream Jew hater all you want when it's your own kids getting their arms blown off. http://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1725566532221063284 Israel claims a 'right' to do this? This is self-defense? Israel is an apartheid child murdering terrorist state. And you lot supporting it are no better than if you were doing it yourselves. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 18 November 2023 9:14:27 AM
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AC
Your comment: “For all the people who use the words 'Anti-Semite' and 'Jew hater'. I wish it would be their friends, families, parents, children being bombed”, is the most outrageous post ever to get past the moderator. Someone calls you or anyone else an anti-Semite or a Jew-hater, and you want their friends, parents and children bombed. Just because you get called a couple of names. You have certainly disqualified yourself as a rational human being. You are sick. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:18:11 AM
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Hi AC,
With Russia's invasion of Ukraine/murder of its civilian population, the justification was Putin's claim that Ukraine had become infested with armed extremists hellbent on killing Russians, so Russia was thus justified in demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine. You were believing and accepting of this justification. Now what is different about Israel trying to remove Hamas from the Gaza strip, other than the justification being factual? Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:28:02 AM
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Carnegie Middle-East scholars tell us:
We need to take a step back and have a look at the root cause of the terrible events that are happening. They say that the world might have been surprised at the size of the Hamas attack, but that it should not have been surprised that it took place. They say - the international community bears part of the responsibility for letting the conflict simmer and for accepting the longest occupation in modern history. We're told that the time has now come when the world can no longer ignore the fact that as long as the Israeli occupation continues, more blood will be unnecessarily spilled by both sides. They say that Palestinians in Gaza have been locked in a prison for nearly 20 years under siege by Israel without any political lifeline. The explosion of such a horrific nature was the direct result of a lack of any political horizon. Those who felt that peace was possible in the region without coming to terms with the Palestinian occupation have now had that false impression shattered. The international community is now faced with a radical Israeli government that is not interested in any compromise, and an ineffective Palestinian leadership that has now been further weakened by current events and a US administration that is pre-occupied with presidential elections next year. The conditions don't appear favourable for a political initiative which would require a willingness of both parties to seriously engage, as well as the US administration - that has so far been disinterested. The facts summed up by these Middle-East scholars are not pleasant. They tell us that - the longer the world continues to focus only on the here and now, the more it will have to deal with casualties on both sides. We're told that - there is no military solution to this conflict. That while everyone understands this basic fact, the insistence to keep ignoring the root of the problem - the occupation - can only keep spelling disaster. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:43:12 AM
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Israel is in proximity to nations with 600 million Arabic inhabitants. None of them are helping Gaza against Israel as other nations have helped Ukrainians against Russia. Why is that? As for apartheid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eEljsSQfc Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:55:04 AM
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I believe in democracy. My understanding is that it means that we are all equal, can believe whatever we choose without fear of persecution, and that whatever one believes does not necessarily make him good or bad.
I hope that the hostages are safe and will be released soon. I don't think that a society raising kids with the ambition of killing their neighbours has a future.