Yuyutsu, it is impossible to reason with one who believes that Israel lies, lies and the Hamas health system tell the truth. They have to convince the world they are oppressed and their lives threatened by Israel, as Hamas has them following the script.

It is "impossible to reason with one who believes that Israel lies ....", says Josephus; but he still continues to argue with people who are never going to change their opinions any more than he is going to change his.

Arguing is a waste of time, on Israel or any other subject. Have your say, then give it a rest. We all have our opinions, but we are not going to make a jot of difference. Only a few people influence what happens in this sorry world, and we are not among those people.

My last word on Israel is that they should stop operating by Hamas rules, and blow the crap out of them. Raze Gaza, and to hell with the rest of a world that has never had to suffer like Israel has.

So, what's currently missing?

Israel raids Al Shifa,
No command centre, no tunnels, no armory, no hostages...

They don't have a lot of credibility, lying about 40 beheaded babies.
I'm not saying there's nothing there just yet,
- But it's time to show the proof to justify their hospital attacks.

I want to see conclusive proof.
Take a video walking through the front door of the hospital and walk me down into the tunnels.
A couple of guns, magazines and a few grenades could've come from militants seeking treatment who subsequently died.

Contrary to your belief AC, the IDF did find a tunnel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-tunnel-found-gazas-al-shifa-hospital-says-israel-un-aid-halted-2023-11-16/

Human Rights Watch, United Nations, World Health
Organization all tell us the same things:

That Israel's repeated attacks on medical facilities
in Gaza should be investigated as war crimes.

We're told that Israel military's "apparently
unlawful attacks" are further destroying Gaza's
healthcare system at a time when medics have
unprecedented numbers of severely injured patients
and hospitals have run out of medicine and basic
equipment.

We're also told that despite the Israeli military's
claim on November 5th 2023, of Hamas's use of
hospitals no evidence put forward would justify
depriving hospitals and ambulances of their
protected status under international humanitarian
law.

The statistics are dreadful. We're told that - as of
November 10th - two thirds of primary health-care
facilities and half of all hospitals in Gaza are not
functioning according to the United Nations.

And as of November 12th at least 521 people, including
16 medical workers have been killed in 137 attacks
on health care in Gaza.

There's more data available on the web. However, it is
too distressing to read.

This situation needs to be addressed

Hi Fester,
- Well of course they would say that.
This is from the same people who said there were 40 beheaded babies and a whole lot of rapes, none of which I've yet seen any evidence for.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/16/idf-says-hamas-hiding-evidence-of-use-of-shifa-hospital-as-command-centre

>>It made videos and photographs of the tunnel shaft and weapons public, but no independent verification was possible.<<
- I'm yet to see this footage.

>>The IDF said that 'after searching some of the hospital complex buildings', troops had found weapons as well as 'intelligence materials, military technologies and equipment, command and control centres, and communications equipment, all belonging to Hamas.<<
- They should show us these 'command and control centres'
And there should be UN staff on hand to verify the findings, not propaganda videos.

>>John Kirby, the White House national security spokesperson, was questioned by reporters on Thursday about the evidence Israel had so far produced to back its claims.

“We have our own intelligence that convinces us that Hamas was using al-Shifa as a command and control node and most likely as well as a storage facility,” Kirby said.

“They were sheltering themselves in the hospital, using the hospital as a shield against military action, placing the patients and medical staff at greater risk. We are still convinced of the soundness of that intelligence.”<<

'convinced'
The fact that he's using that word 'convinced' and IDF are in the hospital
- is not AT ALL 'convincing'.

Show the evidence.
Show me the footage.
Walk through the front door of the hospital and take me on a video tour down into the tunnels.
Show us all this 'command and control centre'