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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Fester,

The following link explains:

http://latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-11-03/arab-countries-unwilling-accept-palestinian-refugees-gaza

The fear by Arab nations appears to be that Israel wants
to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their
countries and nullify Palestinian statehood.

There's more explanations on the web - where the Arab
perspective is fully explained.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 18 November 2023 12:22:07 PM
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"The fear by Arab nations appears to be that Israel wants
to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their
countries and nullify Palestinian statehood."

Arabic nations might say that Foxy, but none of them want an influx of Hamas terrorists. That is the real reason the borders stay shut. If they were concerned about ethnic cleansing the borders would be open and the aid would be flowing in, as is the case with Ukraine. I think that Israel's neighbours will be very grateful if Israel does the hard work of eradicating Hamas. Hopefully they will free the hostages as well.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 November 2023 12:37:39 PM
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This is an example of what happens when a small group sets themselves aside from the main group.
When a small group persists in being different and aloof over a long period of time, they create a gap which can lead to friction.
In this case it has.
All those involved need to step back, and cease living in a fantasy world.
They need, instead, to embrace sound principles, and learn to live in peace.
This will involve compromise.
Can they do that?

We have a similar situation here in Australia.
People descended from a group which lived here long ago persistently remain separate, and create major difference.
Eventually it could lead to more friction than it already has.
However, I think a majority here are too wise to let that happen.
So all should be well for us.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Saturday, 18 November 2023 2:21:36 PM
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Fester,

Arab Middle East scholars have made it clear, as
have the leaders of Jordan and Egypt, that they
already have large Palestinian populations and
their main concern is that Israel's military campaign
is not just about fighting Hamas but it's an
attempt to push the civilian inhabitants out.

They say that Israel's aim all along has been the
expulsion of Palestinians into the surrounding
regions and nullifying Palestinian statehood.

We're told that the radical Israeli government
is not interested in any
compromise. Recent efforts in the region have focused
on the false impression that peace is possible in the
region without coming to terms with the Palestinians
under occupation. That myth has now been shattered.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 18 November 2023 2:22:21 PM
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Israel does not want Gaza; the only reason Israel wants change is that the Gazarians want Israel and continue to bomb civilian centers. Therefore, they must act to take control of the area. Israel employs over 100,000 Palestinians and gives them a better life than the Hamas Government.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 18 November 2023 3:24:37 PM
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"They say that Israel's aim all along has been the
expulsion of Palestinians into the surrounding
regions and nullifying Palestinian statehood."

Really? In 1948 there were about 150,000 Arabs in Israel. Today that figure is over 2.1 million. Comparatively, there has been a greater than 99% reduction in the Jewish population in many surrounding Islamic countries. For example, Egypt's Jewish population declined from about 75,000 in 1948 to fewer than 10 in 2020: Almost a 99.9% reduction, just like Listerine Foxy.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-of-egypt

To me Foxy, that suggests that the residents of these countries aren't great believers in multiculturalism, and they certainly don't want Palestinians who bring up their kids to be Hamas terrorists.

I hope that the IDF can rescue the hostages soon. It is a horrible ordeal for them and their families.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 18 November 2023 4:26:30 PM
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