mhaze,

Seems you are comfortable for thousands more innocent women and children to die, well at least until Hamas surrenders and is disbanded, giving up all governmental power and handing control over Gaza to some sort of international committee" And if they don't, then thousands more innocent Palestinians must die at the hands of the Zionists. But wait, the Zionist are not willing to give control to some sort of international committee, their Fuhrer has said Israel will be the ones to control Gaza. 90% of the world are no longer fooled by those Zionist acts of genocide in Gaza. The world demands a ceasefire NOW!

p/s Lets hope Israel never suspects there are Hamas fighters hiding out in your street, you might end up as collateral damage. But you would be comfortable with that of course! No you wouldn't, you'd be DEAD!

Dear Paul,

«Seems you are comfortable for thousands more innocent women and children to die»

Comfortable?

A few hours ago, 21 IDF reservists were killed in just one incident in central Gaza.
21 additional families will never see their loved ones again.
The number of wounded was not yet published.

How can anyone be comfortable in this situation?

«Lets hope Israel never suspects there are Hamas fighters hiding out in your street»

Street? It is difficult to find even one house in Khan Yunis without weapons and ammunition inside and every second house hosts a major storage of long-range rockets, grenades, anti-tank missiles and weapon-making tools. Not many Hamas fighters are there inside - they stay in underground tunnels most of the time, only to emerge and use these weapons: entry to those tunnels is through the buildings on top.

There is no comfort in killing civilians, even while they, except for the very little children, are not as innocent because they know very well about the weapons hidden in their homes and what they are meant for - but Israel has no other choice.

Terrible as the consequences are, the alternative to this fighting, is to drop one's weapons, sit comfortably at home just listening to music, playing with the kids and grandkids and sleeping comfortably at night like idiots, waiting for these monsters to emerge at the least expected moment from underground tunnels, on gliders from the air and commando boats from the sea, to slaughter one's whole family and burn all houses down.

Israel is fighting for its survival like a wounded animal.
There is no other alternative.
Its enemy is intent on slaughtering all Israelis, "cleaning" its holy land by leaving no "crusader" alive, no matter the cost, including the terrible costs you describe for the people of Gaza.

«their Fuhrer has said Israel will be the ones to control Gaza»

Regardless of the monsters in Israel's government, the monsters of Hamas must be dealt with more urgently. The former's turn, I pray, will come not too long after.

Hi Yuyutsu,

All what you say is gleaned by you from Zionist propaganda, it may be true, but its from propaganda never the less. You try to imply civilians have some kind of "rational choice" in all this, in someway they are willing participants. No, they are innocent victims, women and children caught up in a terrible war, not of their making. Big of you to concede the children might not have a choice. There is no justification for killing innocent civilians in war, none what so ever!

When the Hamas atrocity of 7th October took place, Hamas's former Minister of Communication Yosef Almansi, denounced the attack as a heresy, opposite of the religion of Islam, setting back their cause 200 years ... a madness.

Israel's response rebounded with widespread opposition through the Middle East.

This had nothing to do with the plight of the Palestinians. Most of the Muslim world refuses to accept them. Indeed the 2013 massacre in al-Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus which saw most of the 160,000 Palestinians murdered or displaced raised nary a peep.

Iran finances Hamas $100 million annually, provides them with special training a weaponry. Why?

Middle Eastern and Western Analysts see the reason in Iran's annual Quds (Jerusalem) Day, the last Friday of Ramadan, with its antisemitic, anti-Israel, "Death to Israel" "Death to America" chants and speeches.

Iran's obsession with Jews and Israel is rooted in the cult of the prophet Imam Muhammad al-Mahdi born in the 9th century; a 12th descendant of Prophet Mohommed. His return is prophesised to occur in Jerusalem. This means the necessary destruction of all Jews (and other religions) and Israel to harbor in the prophet's return And ultimately the destruction of the West.

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Dear Paul,

«All what you say is gleaned by you from Zionist propaganda»

Zionism ended when the state of Israel was established, in 1948:
Are you saying that the Zionists just returned from their graves?

Instead of Zionists, what we now have, are Israelis, just ordinary people, of all different views and persuasions, of many religions even (some with none), with just very few things they can all agree on: that they rather live, they and their families, not die; that they rather remain whole in body and mind, not broken, maimed and raped; that they rather retain their homes rather than become homeless refugees.

Other than these there is no consensus in Israel about anything, yet Israel's present actions in Gaza (NOT in the West Bank) can be logically derived and justified from that minimal consensus alone.

Do you consider the statement, "I want to stay alive", a piece of propaganda?

True, there are some people in Israel with different sinister motives, which I strongly condemn.

«There is no justification for killing innocent civilians in war, none what so ever!»

There is no justification for murdering them, none what so ever.

What counts, what makes killing a murder, is the motive to see them dead - or the lack thereof.
And yes, I am aware that there is a shameful minority in Israel who have that motive, but most Israelis do not have it.

I believe that killing innocents in pure self-defence, in order to preserves one's life and one's family's lives, without any other motive and after trying one's best (though failing) to avoid that killing, can at times be justified... how more so when some of those presumed innocent are not truly that innocent.

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Dear WhiteMouse,

«Iran's obsession with Jews and Israel is rooted in the cult of the prophet Imam Muhammad al-Mahdi»

May I suggest that this is a mere excuse?

The Iranian regime hates Israel so bitterly because Israel used to the deposed Shah's best friend and ally.

One reason doesn't negate the other.